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Old 01-25-2012 | 11:17 PM
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Keep the shrews and underwear out of the ceiling fan please.
No problem. They both stick to the wall if thrown hard enough.

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I could replace it with your old profile picture.

That was an old picture before the sagging started. They wont let me use my new picture.
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Old 01-26-2012 | 12:03 AM
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I understand. Your bolting requirements sound much better than ours. I don't believe we're using anywhere near that many bolts.
Should have read every 6' thereafter not 6".
Old 01-26-2012 | 01:03 AM
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Wow, drinking, storm shelters, Bark's mankini bottoms.... this is scary stuff.

As far as the containers go, a 20' container weighs in at around 5800lbs dry. If you are lucky, you will find single use containers that are not in bad shape, but you'll still want to seal them a little better, and weld the end doors shut. This will make them as watertight as possible.

Weather is all over the map, -8C tonight. But it could drop again tomorrow, such is the meteorological phenomenon known as the sub arctic winter. Busier than a four-peckered hound as usual. Once the trucks hit the trail to the ice roads, it'll slow down to some semblance of sanity again.

Have fun out there people
Old 01-26-2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Totallyrad
OK, let's talk about that. They were water tight when built, they're service life has been reached by the company that purchased them originally, that's why they're affordable for us to buy.
Originally Posted by pind
As far as the containers go, a 20' container weighs in at around 5800lbs dry. If you are lucky, you will find single use containers that are not in bad shape, but you'll still want to seal them a little better, and weld the end doors shut. This will make them as watertight as possible.
No, like Pind says, they are one time use containers. The JCB would set it ok, it'll lift 7000, but I'll have a sizeable excavator here IF I do this. A hole 10 feet wide, 24 feet long and 9 or 10 feet deep would take me a month to dig with my 12" bucket!


THURSDAY, JANUARY 26th:

1784 - In a letter to his daughter, Benjamin Franklin expressed unhappiness over the eagle as the symbol of America. He wanted the symbol to be the turkey.

1788 - The first European settlers in Australia, led by Captain Arthur Phillip, landed in what became known as Sydney. The group had first settled at Botany Bay eight days before. This day is celebrated as Australia Day.

1837 - Michigan became the 26th state to join the United States.

1861 - In the U.S., Louisiana seceded from the Union.

1870 - The state of Virgina rejoined the Union.

1875 - George F. Green patented the electric dental drill for sawing, filing, dressing and polishing teeth.

1942 - The first American expeditionary force to go to Europe during World War II went ashore in Northern Ireland.

1962 - The U.S. launched Ranger 3 to land scientific instruments on the moon. The probe missed its target by about 22,000 miles.

1972 - In Hermsdorf, Czechoslovakia, a JAT Yugoslav Airlines flight crashed after the detonation of a bomb in the forward cargo hold killing 27 people. The bomb was believed to have been placed on the plane by a Croatian extremist group. Vesna Vulovic, a stewardess, survived after falling 33,000 feet in the tail section. She broke both legs and became paralyzed from the waist down.

1992 - Russian president Boris Yeltsin announced that his country would stop targeting U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.

1996 - U.S. First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton testified before a grand jury concerning the Whitewater probe.

1998 - U.S. President Clinton denied having an affair with a former White House intern, saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."

1999 - Saddam Hussein vowed revenge against the U.S. in response to air-strikes that reportedly killed civilians. The strikes were U.S. planes defending themselves against anti-aircraft fire.

2009 - The Icelandic government and banking system collapsed. Prime Minister Geir Haarde resigned.

THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:
The next time someone says, “You look familiar, where do I know you from?”, respond with, “Well, do you watch ****?”

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Old 01-26-2012 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by annabelle
Should have read every 6' thereafter not 6".
That sounds more like ours.

Originally Posted by chaikwa
No, like Pind says, they are one time use containers. The JCB would set it ok, it'll lift 7000, but I'll have a sizeable excavator here IF I do this. A hole 10 feet wide, 24 feet long and 9 or 10 feet deep would take me a month to dig with my 12" bucket!
Plan on the excavator. As to lifting the weight, you'll figure out quick that you also need reach. And like you said, there's still the issue of the hole. Just an FYI, most excavators these days have switchable controls so if you're not proficient with a standard excavator pattern you can just flip a switch and go to a backhoe pattern. It's also not necessary to bury the entire container as you can place the earth from the hole on top creating more of a bunker. It might be cheaper to rent that hire. Think 200 class to give you a safety margin if you're going 8' deep. Take a chain saw in with you. Also make sure you have a plan so somebody knows you have a shelter and they check on you anyway and remember, the door opens to the inside.
Old 01-26-2012 | 07:25 AM
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It might be cheaper to rent that hire. Think 200 class to give you a safety margin if you're going 8' deep.
I have a favor owed to me by the JD dealer right around the corner, and when/if I do this I'll get the equivalent of a 490 Deere or 215 Cat. I don't know what the 'new' numbers are these days, but I can relate to those old models because that's what I used to have. I can run either controls but I prefer SAE.
Old 01-26-2012 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
I have a favor owed to me by the JD dealer right around the corner, and when/if I do this I'll get the equivalent of a 490 Deere or 215 Cat. I don't know what the 'new' numbers are these days, but I can relate to those old models because that's what I used to have. I can run either controls but I prefer SAE.
Roger that. Think about the bunker idea. You can go with a 6' hole, add back the foot of concrete and be in the ground 5'. Put the rest of the dirt on top and plant some good DOT grass to tighten it up. I would back fill with 57 just to relieve some of the pressure on the sides.
Old 01-26-2012 | 08:03 AM
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This is where I was suppose to go today to work the lumber in their back yard. The entire roof from the top of the wall was removed. The garage wall on the right was sucked out, the next interior wall is shifted 4" toward the garage at the top and the remaining block walls in the foundation have 1/16 stair step cracks in them. The house was in the process of sliding to the right and breaking up. This storm was rated as an EF3 at this point. The second and third pics are from the interior.
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Old 01-26-2012 | 08:55 AM
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Old 01-26-2012 | 01:54 PM
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lol shrew & undie pattern wall paper don't sound good either.



My arms are shaky, work out done. Let's see if I can finish up a knife sheath.
Old 01-26-2012 | 02:14 PM
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lol shrew & undie pattern wall paper don't sound good either.



My arms are shaky, work out done. Let's see if I can finish up a knife sheath.
Just bite down and rip a piece off.
Old 01-26-2012 | 02:23 PM
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The entire roof from the top of the wall was removed.
Yikes! Were they home at the time?
Old 01-26-2012 | 02:27 PM
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Yes, they moved to the basement, under the stairs near the middle of the house. That's right where they should be but it almost wasn't enough.
Old 01-26-2012 | 03:29 PM
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Yes, they moved to the basement, under the stairs near the middle of the house. That's right where they should be but it almost wasn't enough.
I have to stop looking at that stuff... I almost get tears in my eyes thinking about what those poor people are going thru. Guess I'm getting soft in my old age.
Old 01-26-2012 | 04:17 PM
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What amazes me is that these folks who've been through it time and time again are so humble and calm about it. It's a fact of life and they take it and clean up, help each other and go on. You can see how good a people they are.


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