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07-18-2006, 06:18 PM
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Ask Rodney King............ 
If your question is CAN they?....Of course they CAN be maced.
If your question is should they?, I guess that would all depend on the circumstances.
Perps in cuffs have been known to do some pretty amazingly dumb things.
I'm sure there are a few Boys in Blue that will chime in.
If your question is CAN they?....Of course they CAN be maced.
If your question is should they?, I guess that would all depend on the circumstances.
Perps in cuffs have been known to do some pretty amazingly dumb things.
I'm sure there are a few Boys in Blue that will chime in.
07-18-2006, 06:48 PM
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Depends on what you mean by detained I guess. I work at a Federal Penitentiary and we mace and/or gas inmates in their cells that are acting up all the time.. We have even gassed them when they were cuffed AND in their cell.
The biggest thing here is the use of force model. We can ONLY use as much force as necessary to gain compliance from the inmate. Once he complies the fun is over. Unless you want to look for another job.
The biggest thing here is the use of force model. We can ONLY use as much force as necessary to gain compliance from the inmate. Once he complies the fun is over. Unless you want to look for another job.
07-18-2006, 07:15 PM
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Can somebody kick the window out of a car while cuffed in the back?
Can they run with cuffs on, head-but, etc.?
Can they run with cuffs on, head-but, etc.?
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07-18-2006, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Redleg
Can somebody kick the window out of a car while cuffed in the back?
Can they run with cuffs on, head-but, etc.?
Can they run with cuffs on, head-but, etc.?
Well, YEAH! But now you know I wasn't on vacation in MI........
Circumstances, circumstances,,,, cops are looking at you with tired eyes and patience for the REST of the story. and here come the lawyers who will tell you yes- the police did everything wrong and sign here for a settlement for my fees. you? you get the satisfaction of knowing the cop was wrong.
please.............see all the above.
07-18-2006, 10:28 PM
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Not talking about a correction environment, yes in very rare circumstances when you can articulate why you did it. But I would strongly discourage it. Myself and other officer's have deployed O.C. while attemping to place someone in custody, but I have never deployed it while someone was in restraints.
07-19-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rdc
The biggest thing here is the use of force model. We can ONLY use as much force as necessary to gain compliance from the inmate. Once he complies the fun is over. Unless you want to look for another job.
07-19-2006, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by displacedtexan
I watched a guy cuffed on the ground have 3 cans of mace emptied in his face. He was still kicking and biting whenever they got anywhere near close to him...
We have had this happen also. It is usually some joker that is on meth. ( don't ask how they get meth in the Pen but they do ) Once that happens we break out the sting ***** and that will make ANYONE comply
Even the meth heads.
07-19-2006, 12:24 AM
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We have had this happen also. It is usually some joker that is on meth. ( don't ask how they get meth in the Pen but they do ) Once that happens we break out the sting ***** and that will make ANYONE comply Even the meth heads.
Even the meth heads.Well, since I'm curious...
Well, I could have some fun with those...
07-19-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rdc
We have had this happen also. It is usually some joker that is on meth. ( don't ask how they get meth in the Pen but they do ) Once that happens we break out the sting ***** and that will make ANYONE comply Even the meth heads.
Even the meth heads.