Interesting reading- attention left wing dissident writing!
#33
Re: Interesting reading- attention left wing dissident writing!
Originally posted by AlpineRAM
I just found this- I don't agree or disagree with it, but actually it partially voices the feelings of a lot of European media quite correctly.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Jan04/Fitrakis_0103.htm
Don't read it if you are a fanatical supporter of the Bush government. I don't intend to start a flame war here, I do just think that it summarizes some of the concerns the European media have with the US quite neatly.
AlpineRAM
I just found this- I don't agree or disagree with it, but actually it partially voices the feelings of a lot of European media quite correctly.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Jan04/Fitrakis_0103.htm
Don't read it if you are a fanatical supporter of the Bush government. I don't intend to start a flame war here, I do just think that it summarizes some of the concerns the European media have with the US quite neatly.
AlpineRAM
October 6, 2003
Fourth Reich?
The Bush-Rove-Schwarzenegger **** Nexus
By BOB FITRAKIS and HARVEY WASSERMAN
George W. Bush's grandfather helped finance the **** Party. Karl Rove's grandfather allegedly helped run the **** Party, and helped build the Birkenau Death Camp. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Austrian father volunteered for the infamous **** SA and became a ranking officer.
Together, they have destabilized California and are on the brink of bringing it a new Reich.
#35
Hauling.
Thanks for pointing out who Fitrakis is and what he wrote. You do sencond my point, didn't think that you would. (Before you explode now re-read what I wrote)
By the way, thanks for calling me a moron.
Jack : We do read about Mr Burg et. al getting beheaded or slain in other ways in Iraq- the tendency in our media is to attribute it to being there as an american is quite risky. (And at least throwing in bits like "suspected mercenary")
Oil for food program- better oil for the benefit of the rich program. Anyways, I did never read that proof for the WMDs was found- could you send me a link?
Girls in school- first time since the Taliban in Afghanistan yes, not true for Iraq.(Had female classmates from Iraq in the 80s- there was even an academic exchange programme with Austria especially for women) Food, water etc- can't say whether the situation got better or worse, there are contradictory reports.
FiverBob: You don't seem to read very well- or do you think that your posting is in any way correlated to my complaint about what I read in our media ??? Just 2 posts before your post I wrote:
kandgo: If you read my posts again you'll see what they were intended for: And I'll write it again.
To show what the average European citizen reads about Bush and Iraq.
I don't think there's an agenda behind my posts- except maybe that I'd like to show some US citizens what kind of "information" we get over here and maybe also show why the majorities over here think the way they think.
cumminnotstrokn: I did not in any way judge Bush or his advisors. Where in my post do you find anything where I judge him?
Lary and t7, I won't have to comment about spiderman, cinderella etc. They are quite on topic compared to the posts of some other people
AlpineRAM
Thanks for pointing out who Fitrakis is and what he wrote. You do sencond my point, didn't think that you would. (Before you explode now re-read what I wrote)
By the way, thanks for calling me a moron.
Jack : We do read about Mr Burg et. al getting beheaded or slain in other ways in Iraq- the tendency in our media is to attribute it to being there as an american is quite risky. (And at least throwing in bits like "suspected mercenary")
Oil for food program- better oil for the benefit of the rich program. Anyways, I did never read that proof for the WMDs was found- could you send me a link?
Girls in school- first time since the Taliban in Afghanistan yes, not true for Iraq.(Had female classmates from Iraq in the 80s- there was even an academic exchange programme with Austria especially for women) Food, water etc- can't say whether the situation got better or worse, there are contradictory reports.
FiverBob: You don't seem to read very well- or do you think that your posting is in any way correlated to my complaint about what I read in our media ??? Just 2 posts before your post I wrote:
kandgo: If you read my posts again you'll see what they were intended for: And I'll write it again.
To show what the average European citizen reads about Bush and Iraq.
I don't think there's an agenda behind my posts- except maybe that I'd like to show some US citizens what kind of "information" we get over here and maybe also show why the majorities over here think the way they think.
cumminnotstrokn: I did not in any way judge Bush or his advisors. Where in my post do you find anything where I judge him?
Lary and t7, I won't have to comment about spiderman, cinderella etc. They are quite on topic compared to the posts of some other people
AlpineRAM
#36
Originally posted by AlpineRAM
Jack : We do read about Mr Burg et. al getting beheaded or slain in other ways in Iraq- the tendency in our media is to attribute it to being there as an american is quite risky. (And at least throwing in bits like "suspected mercenary")
Jack : We do read about Mr Burg et. al getting beheaded or slain in other ways in Iraq- the tendency in our media is to attribute it to being there as an american is quite risky. (And at least throwing in bits like "suspected mercenary")
Oil for food program- better oil for the benefit of the rich program.
Anyways, I did never read that proof for the WMDs was found- could you send me a link?
Girls in school- first time since the Taliban in Afghanistan yes, not true for Iraq.(Had female classmates from Iraq in the 80s- there was even an academic exchange programme with Austria especially for women) Food, water etc- can't say whether the situation got better or worse, there are contradictory reports.
#37
Jack:
About the girls in school you wrote:
Right, suspected mercenary. Gee, your news isn't slanted in any way, is it?
Hmm, aint it exactly that what I'm trying to show ? News being slanted?
I do think that your comment of people in unmarked mass graves in Europe being ok is very inappropriate. I do really detest this notion. Sorry if you think like that about me. But you are wrong about it.
About the link on WMDs : Please post the link. (or the story)
Again, to make it clear(er) if possible: I wrote this to show what we do read about the US over here.
AlpineRAM
About the girls in school you wrote:
You don't hear the fact about girls in Iraq and Afghanistan being able to go to shool for the first time.
Right, suspected mercenary. Gee, your news isn't slanted in any way, is it?
I do think that your comment of people in unmarked mass graves in Europe being ok is very inappropriate. I do really detest this notion. Sorry if you think like that about me. But you are wrong about it.
About the link on WMDs : Please post the link. (or the story)
Again, to make it clear(er) if possible: I wrote this to show what we do read about the US over here.
AlpineRAM
#38
T-7 Firefighter, In World War 2 Germany didn't attack us Japan did. Do you think we should have just left the Germans alone
People should read their history books before making statements like that.
People should read their history books before making statements like that.
#40
this is what you get if you post something the right wing doesn't like.
Tired of your attitude
You make it a point to post as often as you can in a manner that is not in the interest of discussion, but rather as combative in nature.
Frankly we don't need that here. Being a Vietnam vet does not give you the right to be a pain in the behind when you feel like it.
If you can't post in a constructive manner, than frankly I prefer you don't post at all. I don't care a bit about your political interests, only that your posts are 3/4 negative in nature.
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Tired of your attitude
You make it a point to post as often as you can in a manner that is not in the interest of discussion, but rather as combative in nature.
Frankly we don't need that here. Being a Vietnam vet does not give you the right to be a pain in the behind when you feel like it.
If you can't post in a constructive manner, than frankly I prefer you don't post at all. I don't care a bit about your political interests, only that your posts are 3/4 negative in nature.
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To start a local chapter of DTR in your area email ncdtr@frontiernet.net
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#42
Great post Lary Ellis!
Couldn't have made the point any better, or probably as well for that matter.
Bush has enough common sense and courage to protect his own borders.
That means he won't cede any U.S. authority to the Europeans and the corrupt UN.
That's all I care about.
I don't care if he's a bad speaker.
Those kinds of priorities are what got us into trouble in the first place IMO.
GO BUSH!
DT.
Couldn't have made the point any better, or probably as well for that matter.
Bush has enough common sense and courage to protect his own borders.
That means he won't cede any U.S. authority to the Europeans and the corrupt UN.
That's all I care about.
I don't care if he's a bad speaker.
Those kinds of priorities are what got us into trouble in the first place IMO.
GO BUSH!
DT.
#44
Originally posted by herb
this is what you get if you post something the right wing doesn't like.
Tired of your attitude
You make it a point to post as often as you can in a manner that is not in the interest of discussion, but rather as combative in nature.
Frankly we don't need that here. Being a Vietnam vet does not give you the right to be a pain in the behind when you feel like it.
If you can't post in a constructive manner, than frankly I prefer you don't post at all. I don't care a bit about your political interests, only that your posts are 3/4 negative in nature.
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Bluefield, WV. 24701-9779
lellis@dieseltruckresource.com
this is what you get if you post something the right wing doesn't like.
Tired of your attitude
You make it a point to post as often as you can in a manner that is not in the interest of discussion, but rather as combative in nature.
Frankly we don't need that here. Being a Vietnam vet does not give you the right to be a pain in the behind when you feel like it.
If you can't post in a constructive manner, than frankly I prefer you don't post at all. I don't care a bit about your political interests, only that your posts are 3/4 negative in nature.
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Founding Member & President of National Chapter DTR #1
To start a local chapter of DTR in your area email ncdtr@frontiernet.net
Lary Ellis
President NCDTR #1
649 Houston Road
Bluefield, WV. 24701-9779
lellis@dieseltruckresource.com
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Originally posted by Barry Smith
T-7 Firefighter, In World War 2 Germany didn't attack us Japan did. Do you think we should have just left the Germans alone
People should read their history books before making statements like that.
T-7 Firefighter, In World War 2 Germany didn't attack us Japan did. Do you think we should have just left the Germans alone
People should read their history books before making statements like that.
also, lets remember. vietnam didn't attack us either. we all know how well that went.