Originally Posted by chipmonk

dude, you need to relax! i never said anything was a slap in anyone's face (but thanx for taking the time to quote my original post, then misquote it in your reply)- i said 'i thought it was like RUBBING IT in the face of every hard working person....', note where i wrote I THOUGHT! that means that's what i thought about their choice of material- not what i'm telling anyone else to think about it (and obviously, it's not what you think). i'm not the only one who was less than impressed by their choice of material, as digital bullet started a thread about it, when the issue first came out. btw, the title of the thread is 'if you didn't earn it, should it be in a magazine', not 'how to raise your kids', or 'people who didn't earn their stuff'.

Originally Posted by JPR Ram

HAHA, Man, I guess I took so long to reply, that I substituded your "rubbing" for "slapping". My bad. And I did go off at a rant. But I do look at the publishers and producers responsibilities different then you. It's all opinions or thoughts (and you know what they say about opinions). And as for the content of the other reply's differenting from the title, yes, most of the other replys did go in a different direction than Digital Bullet intended. Even from where I was going with it. Oh well.

Originally Posted by chipmonk

........... but i gotta go now, and help my son into the new lexus i bought him for his 5th b-day.

Originally Posted by BigTXDually

My opinion is that yeah if you are going to have a vehicle of any kind when you are younger you should have some vested interest in it. My sister if 5 years older than me and my parents got her her first car which was a really nice 1990 Camry (less than a year old at the time). They paid for the entire car for her. She wasn't responsible for any kind of maintenance on the car nor did she have to do any of the work on her car. That was designated for me (the family gear head) while supervised by my dad. Nearly 3 year later she DESTROYED the engine by not paying attention to the OIL check engine light while in college. When I was getting close to the of age to get a vehicle of some sort (13.5-14) my parents flat out told me that they were not going to help (due to my sisters negligence of her own car) and that I better start saving my money if I wanted a car or truck. At this point in my life I had also joined into the family business of registered show cattle and used the money from my first 2 cows (Christmas present from my grandmother) to buy more cows and start my own small heard. When I was 14 I purchased a 1981 F-100 from a guy that had just fully restored it for his wife but she developed a muscular problem and could not work the clutch anymore. I was very lucky and got it for a LOW $1500 of my own cash. Now it was a great starter truck, but hey im a young kid that makes great money selling and showing registered show cattle and wanted something more. I had always had a fascination with Corvettes (THE OLD STINGRAYS). When I was 15 it wasn't a Stingray but it was an 82 Vette that I got from a cop at a smoking deal of $5000. Now I was 15 and had TWO GREAT vehicles that I purchased and maintained with my own money. A year later I purchased a Chevy 3500 WESTERN HAULER conversion to hall my cattle around to shows and to go to rodeos in. I then sold my 82 Vette and purchased a 1969 Mustang MACH 1 with a 428 Cobra Jet. Again another amazing find from an old man in San Antonio that had the car and didnt want it to keep wasting away and let it go for a mere $5500. Eight months later I traded it and my old 81 F-100 for another Corvette. This time it was a 1968 model, which I still have. By this time it was the end of my Jr. year in high school, yeah it was only my JR YEAR. Well now my dad was wanting to sell one of the old ranch trucks which I had always loved and was one of the first truck i ever drove extensively. It was an 86 F-250 with a 6.9 Diesel. It was in great shape and I drove it all the time for the fact that it actually got A LOT better mileage than my 96 Western Hauler (with a 454). Now when I went to college I got rid of the Chevy 3500 (Too big for campus-sold it to parents) and unfortunately after nearly a year the old 6.9 F-250 gave up the ghost and died on me(internal failures at 600,000+ miles) , repairs were too costly. Well i then went and purchased a 1999 Chevy Z-71 and dumped a ton of $$$$$ lifting it and making BIG HP out of a 350 Vortec. After all the mods had been done one of my cousin that worked as a pipe line welder introduced me to his 2001 Dodge Cummins, and a really simple way to get a lot of power by just adding a chip. That was A LOT easier than all I had to do to my gassers to get that kind of HP gains. Well now I was 20 and a full time student at Texas A&M and also working anywhere between 30 and 60 hours for an oil tools company making $25 an hour. Lucky for me the oil industry is the other family business and getting that job wasn't too hard, it was a lot harder to keep it once I had it than it was to get it. So, after 8 months of driving this highly modified Z-71 I sell it to a KID (15 years old) for a TON of money. With what he paid IM SURE IT WAS MOM AND DADS MONEY, but hey who am I to judge. Then I went and got me an 01 2500 4x4 Dodge with a Cummins. Soon after that I started to work for a diesel performance company doing R&D for them and my 01 becomes an 800 HP daily driver. I had that truck for 3 years and then was hit by a drunk driver at 75 MPH , which DESTROYED my FAVORITE truck I EVER owned. It took me 3 and a half months to fix it but it wasnt ever the same. Nine months after I repaired it I traded it in on my 2003 Dodge 3500 Quad Cab Dually 4x4 with a Cummins (of course) this is was in EARLY 2004. Now 3.5 years later it has gone through A TON of changes and again after doing dome R&D for a diesel performance company (in late 2004) and many other mods I have a 700 HP daily driver on 22.5s and 40 inch drive tires that turns out AMAZING times at the track. The reason I have wrote pretty much a life story is to help people understand that with A LOT of HARD work and ingenuity(and some luck on good deals) you can start with an 81 F-100 and a couple of cows and turn it into a classic 1968 Corvette and an AWESOME 2003 Dodge dually, along with your own performance shop to continue your love of chasing BIG HORSEPOWER. And it only took 10 years total.

Originally Posted by HOHN

This is what was written.

What I read was:
bigstreamofconsciousnessrantwithnogrammaticalinter positiontomakeitsomewhatreadableand/orevenmodestlyunderstandable

Originally Posted by chaikwa

I can't see how a 17 year old kid could 'earn' $31,000. What can someone that age DO to earn that kinda money? Even if they started saving when they were 12, that'd be $7750 a year they'd have to save to accumulate $31k by the time they were 17.

I guess he has the 'right' to give to his off-spring, yes, but what are they learning? I know I learned, first hand, what it's like to struggle to make ends meet, not just see my dad do it. You can have a sense of appreciation when you watch your parents struggle for everything they have, but it's a whole new ballgame when you have been thru that struggle yourself. The appreciation runs a bit deeper then!

I have yet to own a vehicle that cost over $25000. Not because I can't afford it, but because I can't justify it. I DID spend a little over a million bucks in the 80's/90's on my excavation equipment, but that was to make money with, not just ride around in. Nothing wrong with spending big money on a pickup truck tho if that's what you want, I just can't see how pre-20 people can do it without some kinda 'help'.

chaikwa.

Originally Posted by Purplezr2

I have made 25K or better since I was 17, have had two or three cars at a time, paid for college out of pocket(finally settled on a major after 4 years)

Originally Posted by Timmay2

i'm glad to see im not the only one who made less than $17 an hour during highschool and also had a chance to actually sleep!

Originally Posted by Justwannabeme

I really have no interest in the journey financed by daddy's money.