UK-RAM

Yes within the next couple of years I will try to persuade my wife to let us see if we can get a green card for the USA. She seems to favour Canada. I want to try to get over next year sometime and spend a few days looking at some real estate or a business. We Farm at present and buy and sell tractors and machinery, so guess we could do the same thing on your side of the pond. I just gotta do research into what area would suit us best - gotta say I love the mountains. Trouble is US is so big it's job to know where to start, plus different states have different laws, ie gun laws.A sparky by the way is slang for an Electrician.

UK-RAM

Yea but trouble is we are payin all these taxes so that thousands of illegal aliens can come through the tunnel from France and get free healthcare Be alright if it was just us, then the health system could cope well, and Diesel wouldn't need to be $10/Gallon.
By the way what's it cost to see a Doc in your neck of the woods? I know you have healthcare insurance etc, as we do, but just sort of wondered.

bkrukow

Dont know what a doc visit would run with no health care insuranse and it varys greatly but my insuranse threw work is a $20 copay for clinic visits and a $30 copay for meds. Then for major stuf such as surgery its something like I pay 20% up to a maximume of around $1500 out of pocket per year.

bentwings

Jezz how much is dog food over there??? That's about all I could afford...I think. My wife says I'm just like the dog.....she says "you wear the same color clothes every day, you eat the same food everyday and you bark all the time." hahah

Fronty Owner

I know for the UK, the price of everythign is about the same number just in pounds.

a bottle of coke is going to cost a quid out of a machine.
A hotel will run about 90 quid / night.
Pizza hut buffet is 5.99 and another 1.50 for a coke.

Norway is a bit more expensive, especially on non-essentials. beer, eating out, fuel, etc.

dodgecbr600rr

i thought Canada was tax crazy but that is really bad. It would take me more then 4 years just to buy a jeep over there at my wage. How can u even afford to eat.

AlpineRAM

Now you might understand why quite a few European members have started threads on how to get to the US...

I'm self-employed over here and there is a minimum you have to pay for "social security" and it's approx 450US$/Month. Then you have to pay only 20% of any medical bill. Income taxes aren't too bad, they are limited to only 54%... Then there are sales taxes (10% on "essentials" 20% for the rest- fuel, heating, electricity and other stuff considered "non-essential") and a host of "fees"- like if I buy a scanner then the price includes a "copyright fee- to support the arts. (Only approx 20 US$ per unit)- because I could make illegal copies and circumvent copyright laws. But if I do so (hey I have paid to do it!) there are still rather high fines. Same is for CDR-s etc. A lot of my time as an entrepreneur is spent by filling forms and answering papers to feed the offices.
Well, yes I am a member of the tourism agency too- because I could potentially profit from tourism in my region- the fee is only approx US$ 70/year, but to get all the paperwork done takes me 5 hours and costs an additional 200US$....

AlpineRAM

Fronty Owner

sure you pay 65% of your income to taxes, but you miss the benefits.
like uhm, you dont have to worry about your money...
you dont have to worry about stuff that can be stolen.

btw, what do you pay each year for taxes on your truck?

Danderson

What's been outlined here is the high price of socialism. Giving enormous amounts of your money to government,supposedly in exchange for cradle to grave security. Can you say Hillary?

Jeff in TD

Wow. I thought things were bad here...

I find it astounding that taxes like that haven't ground the economy over there to a halt.

jrs_dodge_diesel

Careful, if this thread turns political it will close. Further political discussion ca be found on our sister site http://www.all-politics.net/ .

Erska

Glad to see that you guys see my topic at least a little interesting.

Yeah, do not wrote political stuff, it's just nice to hear different opinions of things, but everyone can do it without getting too political.

We have a very, very secure country to live, but it's not free...

At least not free for us who goes to work, but maybe some homeless and prisoners it is.

I know that Norway, UK and Austria are also very heavily taxed countries... this is just sick.

I wanna go to Texas, buy a big good ol'e Pick-up and just drive...

Rednecktastic

I feel bad for you guys. Good to know though so we can try to keep it from happening here.

Anyway, I'll tell you where it's at... Government in Europe, I bet those people are multi millionaires. If it ever happens here I'm b-lining for a powerful position in government. You can call me Stalin.

UK-RAM

Yea me to -I wanna few acres, a big truck, a long driveway, a big ole woodpile and some guns and a hound dog - Texas sounds good to me

Fronty Owner

why texas?

you guys need to go to Wyoming for a week or two holiday.

Texas is OK, but if you want a place to just drive and really see how sparsly populated the US really is, Wyoming, Montana, Utah, either of the Dakotas, is the place to be.