Dick Van Patten Dog Food?
11-05-2010, 01:12 AM
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Dick Van Patten Dog Food?
My German Shortaired Pointer puppy...well 1yr old has what seems to be a food alergy. I think to wheat and meal products. He was on Science Diet and then Iams. Had butt problems when on it. Something with **** glands impacting/infecting.....vet wanting me to put my finger up you know where to release the compaction...etc... No way! So I'm doing everything I can to find a dog food that works so I don't have to do what I stated a sentence or two earlier!!! Anyway, this all natural Dick Van Patten dog food was recomended by our local Vet. Crazy expensive. Seems to be doing wonders for our boys (dogs) as far as weight, energy, and just overall health..and **** gland issue. Both my Heelers and my Pointer all eat it. Thing is, the pointers poo smell from this dog food is terrible. Has like this sweet/sour stentch to it. The food is the Venison and Rice formula......I'm pretty sure. Also tried the Buffalo too. Well, his poo bout makes a guy dry heave when you walk by it. The Heelers have no smell. A few months ago, we went back to a different food and the smell went away. He got butt problems again......so back to the Dick Van Patten again. Smell is back. Called the Vet and told them. I think they think I'm crazy. So, to make a short story long, has anyone else tried this paticular food, and if so, does your dog have crazy terrible smelly poo? Any help with this wierd subject from ones who have tried it would be appreciated. Would like to know if the actual sour/sweet smell is an infection before I run him to the vet for another $300 bill. Thanks
11-05-2010, 03:47 AM
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Regarding the smelly poo. How long did you stick with the van patten brand. It is very likely that if it was a short time that your dogs body is being cleaned out. Smelly poo is not always an indication of a problem, but can be an indication of the return of beneficial bacteria within the digestive tract. It can also be an indication of incomplete digestion of the food, think colostomy bag (very bad smells due to incomplete digestion and presence of intestinal bacteria not retained in the digestive system).
There are also things to look for in the poo besides just the odor. Streaks, clumps, runny or hard. All can be indications of general digestive health. The same is true for humans. You can take a small sample to your vet to have him checked for worms or parasites. If he does have a parasite or a worm, it is possible that good food is allowing his body to fight it off and the smell is the dead or decaying organisms. It is also possible that the worm, parasite or poor digestive health is not allowing him to digest the good food completely causing a smell which is actually undigested food. Regular iams or SD just aren't as good and do not have the nutritional value so they digest more readily. Not always a good thing. If he does have a parasite, I highly recommend a product called Paranil Jr. It is for humans but we use it to worm our animals (cats and dogs) twice a year. We just put a few drops in their water and a few drops on their food. They actually like the taste. It is recommended by the manufacturer for animals and humans. Worming medicine from the vet is very similar to cancer drugs. They kill everything and are very hard on the digestive system of your loved one.
I know you were looking for those who had experience with this particular food, but you may want to have them tested for 'bugs' first to see if there is an underlying issue. If they were mine I would run the test below. It wont hurt, and certainly wont cost you $300 bones (har, har, har)
Here is a non invasive test. Give him/her a diet of cooked rice (cold) with a little cooked hamburger (cold), this is very, very easy to digest. Cook up a big batch and just store it in the fridge, don't drain the grease from the hamburger. To your rice burger, add paranil Jr. when you feed him/her. Also put a couple of drops in their drinking water. Slowly over the course of two or three weeks introduce the van patten feed while continuing the paranil Jr. This will get rid of any 'bugs' and allow the little guys digestive system to adapt to the new food and increased nutritional value.
If the problem persists, the little guy may have an underlying issue or it may be like broccoli or cucumbers with some folks, they just simply have a hard time digesting it. Nothing wrong, just the way their body works.
There are also things to look for in the poo besides just the odor. Streaks, clumps, runny or hard. All can be indications of general digestive health. The same is true for humans. You can take a small sample to your vet to have him checked for worms or parasites. If he does have a parasite or a worm, it is possible that good food is allowing his body to fight it off and the smell is the dead or decaying organisms. It is also possible that the worm, parasite or poor digestive health is not allowing him to digest the good food completely causing a smell which is actually undigested food. Regular iams or SD just aren't as good and do not have the nutritional value so they digest more readily. Not always a good thing. If he does have a parasite, I highly recommend a product called Paranil Jr. It is for humans but we use it to worm our animals (cats and dogs) twice a year. We just put a few drops in their water and a few drops on their food. They actually like the taste. It is recommended by the manufacturer for animals and humans. Worming medicine from the vet is very similar to cancer drugs. They kill everything and are very hard on the digestive system of your loved one.
I know you were looking for those who had experience with this particular food, but you may want to have them tested for 'bugs' first to see if there is an underlying issue. If they were mine I would run the test below. It wont hurt, and certainly wont cost you $300 bones (har, har, har)
Here is a non invasive test. Give him/her a diet of cooked rice (cold) with a little cooked hamburger (cold), this is very, very easy to digest. Cook up a big batch and just store it in the fridge, don't drain the grease from the hamburger. To your rice burger, add paranil Jr. when you feed him/her. Also put a couple of drops in their drinking water. Slowly over the course of two or three weeks introduce the van patten feed while continuing the paranil Jr. This will get rid of any 'bugs' and allow the little guys digestive system to adapt to the new food and increased nutritional value.
If the problem persists, the little guy may have an underlying issue or it may be like broccoli or cucumbers with some folks, they just simply have a hard time digesting it. Nothing wrong, just the way their body works.
11-05-2010, 07:54 AM
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I use Call of the Wild, Buffalo Venison formula. No grains or fillers all meat. It even smells appetizing to me. (the food not their poop) 
My 1 yo mutt had awful problems with his bowels, a week on this and no more issues.
My 1 yo mutt had awful problems with his bowels, a week on this and no more issues.
11-05-2010, 11:31 AM
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Or we could just feed him Chaikwa... That should hold him over for a little while at least.
11-05-2010, 11:37 AM
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.....Two Farmers leaning on their boundary fence just shooting the bull and one Farmer tells the other one "That sure is a beautiful dog you got there...his coat is so soft and shiny..what do you feed him?"
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No way will my dog eat Turnip Greens"Second Farmer replies "Yep this one wouldn't either for the first 2 weeks"
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I know its gross but some dogs have more problems with that than others. My sister has owned her own dog grooming business for 30+ years and because she is a professional, she does the **** gland squeeze to every dog that needs it. I learned how to do it from a vet and it can really make the pooch feel better and eliminates smell if done at least once a month. Look up "squeeze dog **** gland". Once you get over doing it the first time it gets easier.
I know its gross but some dogs have more problems with that than others. My sister has owned her own dog grooming business for 30+ years and because she is a professional, she does the **** gland squeeze to every dog that needs it. I learned how to do it from a vet and it can really make the pooch feel better and eliminates smell if done at least once a month. Look up "squeeze dog **** gland". Once you get over doing it the first time it gets easier.
11-05-2010, 03:25 PM
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My Pointer is the pickiest hound I have ever had. I finally gave up and he gets Purina Dog Chow. He wouldn't touch anything with lamb in it and he snubs the $$$ brands. I know they call it McDonaldds for dogs but its relatively cheap and he's still a physically fit machine so its what he gets.
Corn meal and other ingredients used to really mess with my Rot's coats. I put a Tablespoon of avocado oil in their food 3 times a week and fed them Eukanuba and it cleared up. This was $$$ but I had more back then!
As far as the gland issue goes I have come to the conclusion that some dogs have it and some don't. Its unpleasant to do but gives them relief. I don't ahve any advice for that one.
Good Luck.
Corn meal and other ingredients used to really mess with my Rot's coats. I put a Tablespoon of avocado oil in their food 3 times a week and fed them Eukanuba and it cleared up. This was $$$ but I had more back then!
As far as the gland issue goes I have come to the conclusion that some dogs have it and some don't. Its unpleasant to do but gives them relief. I don't ahve any advice for that one.
Good Luck.
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Regarding the smelly poo. How long did you stick with the van patten brand. It is very likely that if it was a short time that your dogs body is being cleaned out. Smelly poo is not always an indication of a problem, but can be an indication of the return of beneficial bacteria within the digestive tract. It can also be an indication of incomplete digestion of the food, think colostomy bag (very bad smells due to incomplete digestion and presence of intestinal bacteria not retained in the digestive system).
There are also things to look for in the poo besides just the odor. Streaks, clumps, runny or hard. All can be indications of general digestive health. The same is true for humans. You can take a small sample to your vet to have him checked for worms or parasites. If he does have a parasite or a worm, it is possible that good food is allowing his body to fight it off and the smell is the dead or decaying organisms. It is also possible that the worm, parasite or poor digestive health is not allowing him to digest the good food completely causing a smell which is actually undigested food. Regular iams or SD just aren't as good and do not have the nutritional value so they digest more readily. Not always a good thing. If he does have a parasite, I highly recommend a product called Paranil Jr. It is for humans but we use it to worm our animals (cats and dogs) twice a year. We just put a few drops in their water and a few drops on their food. They actually like the taste. It is recommended by the manufacturer for animals and humans. Worming medicine from the vet is very similar to cancer drugs. They kill everything and are very hard on the digestive system of your loved one.
I know you were looking for those who had experience with this particular food, but you may want to have them tested for 'bugs' first to see if there is an underlying issue. If they were mine I would run the test below. It wont hurt, and certainly wont cost you $300 bones (har, har, har)
Here is a non invasive test. Give him/her a diet of cooked rice (cold) with a little cooked hamburger (cold), this is very, very easy to digest. Cook up a big batch and just store it in the fridge, don't drain the grease from the hamburger. To your rice burger, add paranil Jr. when you feed him/her. Also put a couple of drops in their drinking water. Slowly over the course of two or three weeks introduce the van patten feed while continuing the paranil Jr. This will get rid of any 'bugs' and allow the little guys digestive system to adapt to the new food and increased nutritional value.
If the problem persists, the little guy may have an underlying issue or it may be like broccoli or cucumbers with some folks, they just simply have a hard time digesting it. Nothing wrong, just the way their body works.
There are also things to look for in the poo besides just the odor. Streaks, clumps, runny or hard. All can be indications of general digestive health. The same is true for humans. You can take a small sample to your vet to have him checked for worms or parasites. If he does have a parasite or a worm, it is possible that good food is allowing his body to fight it off and the smell is the dead or decaying organisms. It is also possible that the worm, parasite or poor digestive health is not allowing him to digest the good food completely causing a smell which is actually undigested food. Regular iams or SD just aren't as good and do not have the nutritional value so they digest more readily. Not always a good thing. If he does have a parasite, I highly recommend a product called Paranil Jr. It is for humans but we use it to worm our animals (cats and dogs) twice a year. We just put a few drops in their water and a few drops on their food. They actually like the taste. It is recommended by the manufacturer for animals and humans. Worming medicine from the vet is very similar to cancer drugs. They kill everything and are very hard on the digestive system of your loved one.
I know you were looking for those who had experience with this particular food, but you may want to have them tested for 'bugs' first to see if there is an underlying issue. If they were mine I would run the test below. It wont hurt, and certainly wont cost you $300 bones (har, har, har)
Here is a non invasive test. Give him/her a diet of cooked rice (cold) with a little cooked hamburger (cold), this is very, very easy to digest. Cook up a big batch and just store it in the fridge, don't drain the grease from the hamburger. To your rice burger, add paranil Jr. when you feed him/her. Also put a couple of drops in their drinking water. Slowly over the course of two or three weeks introduce the van patten feed while continuing the paranil Jr. This will get rid of any 'bugs' and allow the little guys digestive system to adapt to the new food and increased nutritional value.
If the problem persists, the little guy may have an underlying issue or it may be like broccoli or cucumbers with some folks, they just simply have a hard time digesting it. Nothing wrong, just the way their body works.
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11-05-2010, 10:08 PM
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I have owned a lot of dogs over the years and I guess i was very fortunate not to have this problem.
I really don't know how I would have reacted if my Lab brought the ball back to me and said "See here old chap!, be a nice fellow and stick your finger up me bum and give me a wee squeeze will you?... Ahhhh...now that's a good chap, lets play some more ball shall we?"
I feel for you man and obviously you are trying REAL hard to do what is necessary for your boys, good on you old bean
I really don't know how I would have reacted if my Lab brought the ball back to me and said "See here old chap!, be a nice fellow and stick your finger up me bum and give me a wee squeeze will you?... Ahhhh...now that's a good chap, lets play some more ball shall we?"
I feel for you man and obviously you are trying REAL hard to do what is necessary for your boys, good on you old bean
11-05-2010, 11:07 PM
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Well,different animal but I'm feeding the cat Dick Van Patten's food because it was the only one that didn't have chicken in it. Cat's allergic to chicken and is a happy camper with the new stuff. Way less ingredients when you compare it to other products out there. I haven't had to clean up cat barf since.