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#6
I saw this site when my trans acted up at 40K.
Guy has a point.
I wish him the worst with his new Ford, they're all Junk, no matter which brand you end up with. I like the looks of the New suoer duty, but wouldn't trade my Dodge right now for ANY other one. (like I would have the $750.00 a month it takes to own a new Ford Diesel anyway).
His truck is queer, needs about a 6" lift to look like real truck anyway.
Guy has a point.
I wish him the worst with his new Ford, they're all Junk, no matter which brand you end up with. I like the looks of the New suoer duty, but wouldn't trade my Dodge right now for ANY other one. (like I would have the $750.00 a month it takes to own a new Ford Diesel anyway).
His truck is queer, needs about a 6" lift to look like real truck anyway.
#7
I wouldn't buy a Ford either . I had an assigned company F-350 for 4 years . Nothing but problems , always needing new glow plugs in winter . Can't believe the way my Cummins starts in single digit weather
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#8
Who has the time to sit and create a page like that? Is that guy for real? He has maybe 20 or 30 people that have problems with their Chrysler automatics over a period of 10 years now. What really strikes me as silly is that the folks that have bucked up and replaced their transmissions went to the dealer for the service!
#9
Well as far as I read all these sites it all seems to start off with an incompetent dealer. (Either incompetent or dishonest)
It seems to me that a dealer who is not capable of correcting the problem might also be more prone to actually introduce the failures during the maintenance of the vehicle.
Naturally no manufacturer has a 0% failure rate and IMHO the quality is in the way the problems are resolved. A customer has to cooperate with the dealer or the manufacturer to resolve the problem.
AlpineRAM
It seems to me that a dealer who is not capable of correcting the problem might also be more prone to actually introduce the failures during the maintenance of the vehicle.
Naturally no manufacturer has a 0% failure rate and IMHO the quality is in the way the problems are resolved. A customer has to cooperate with the dealer or the manufacturer to resolve the problem.
AlpineRAM
#11
The only problem I've ever had with a Chrysler tranny since my first '75 B-300 1-ton van, was a governor pressure sensor in a 47RE. I bet a lot of crooked tranny shops do an expensive rebuild or at least charge for one on trannies that have bad sensors adding to the Dodge trannies are junk rumor. It acted like it was shot. But the Chrysler dealership was honest and said the tranny looked great, just a sensor. Then when I did the tranny pan drop filter and fluid on my '03, I saw the same problem waiting to happen again. The wire harness to the sensor block was hard up against the sharp edge of the valve body at the bottom on the right side. It was already worn through to almost shorting out against the VB. I bent the wires around good to clear the valve body and finished the fluid and filter change.
Ford PSD? I'd rather have a Dodge with a Hemi than a Ford with a Po'SD.
Ford PSD? I'd rather have a Dodge with a Hemi than a Ford with a Po'SD.
#12
One more thing...
"The 518/618 transmission has been a real money-maker for transmission shops, with many, many, of these transmissions failing more than once, through the life of the manufacture's warrantee. It is not, at all, uncommon for us to see many 1997 Chrysler trucks, with very low mileage, in a given month, all getting rebuilt transmissions."
This proves the guy is blowing smoke. The 518 was the tranny behind the Cummins in '91~. It was the first 727 to have the O/D unit bolted to the rear. It didn't have a locking TC and was a deep fryer if used for towing because the Cummins couldn't rev so it had to use O/D. But without a locking TC, it was at too low an rpm to have good fluid coupling and the fluid would overheat. The 727 3spd and 3.07 ratio rear end was a better setup for highway as it put the TC at a high enough rpm to give good fluid coupling and heat wasn't a problem. By '93 the 518 had a locking TC but it was weak. Then the '94 had a 47RH with a locking TC. It was better but still weak as was evidenced by the low HP/Torque of the auto equipped Cummins. My '95 was a mere 160hp/400ftlbs. Bumping the power up was a bad tranny waiting to happen but I ran mine stock and towed a TT with it and never had a problem. By '97 it was a 47RE. Fine for stock power but still at it's limit. My '98 was a 5spd stick but the '01.5 was a 47RE. Rock solid with stock power and even with the 3.54 towing our 10k+lb 5th wheel, not a problem. Now if DC would beef up the 5-45RFE 5spd auto with six forward ratios that's in my Hemi powered Ram to handle the torque of the Cummins, THAT would be sweet! But there was no 518 in a '97 Ram. The guy's full of horse biscuits.
"The 518/618 transmission has been a real money-maker for transmission shops, with many, many, of these transmissions failing more than once, through the life of the manufacture's warrantee. It is not, at all, uncommon for us to see many 1997 Chrysler trucks, with very low mileage, in a given month, all getting rebuilt transmissions."
This proves the guy is blowing smoke. The 518 was the tranny behind the Cummins in '91~. It was the first 727 to have the O/D unit bolted to the rear. It didn't have a locking TC and was a deep fryer if used for towing because the Cummins couldn't rev so it had to use O/D. But without a locking TC, it was at too low an rpm to have good fluid coupling and the fluid would overheat. The 727 3spd and 3.07 ratio rear end was a better setup for highway as it put the TC at a high enough rpm to give good fluid coupling and heat wasn't a problem. By '93 the 518 had a locking TC but it was weak. Then the '94 had a 47RH with a locking TC. It was better but still weak as was evidenced by the low HP/Torque of the auto equipped Cummins. My '95 was a mere 160hp/400ftlbs. Bumping the power up was a bad tranny waiting to happen but I ran mine stock and towed a TT with it and never had a problem. By '97 it was a 47RE. Fine for stock power but still at it's limit. My '98 was a 5spd stick but the '01.5 was a 47RE. Rock solid with stock power and even with the 3.54 towing our 10k+lb 5th wheel, not a problem. Now if DC would beef up the 5-45RFE 5spd auto with six forward ratios that's in my Hemi powered Ram to handle the torque of the Cummins, THAT would be sweet! But there was no 518 in a '97 Ram. The guy's full of horse biscuits.
#13
The comment by AlpineRAM about dishonest shops causing failures goes along with what I suspect happened to me . There is a Dodge dealer in the town where I live but I bought my 3500 from a dealer 25 miles away and had the service done there .My wife complained about burning extra fuel and dropping the vehicle off ( but they do provide a free shuttle ) and wanted to know why I didn't have the truck serviced in town . I had the ABS and brake light stay on so I figured I'd better take it to the nearest shop . It was also due for 60,000 mile service . This dealer charged way more than the other shop . $15 more for oil/filter change , $10 more for tire rotation , $20 more for alignment , etc. . Within a week after this service a pinion seal and front wheel bearing needed replacing . Two weeks later the other front wheel bearing went out . These repairs were done back at the original dealer who told me wheel bearing failures are very rare . My wife had also bought her Durango at the local dealer . I later read an article of 10 top scams of car salesmen and they used 3 on her .
#14
without a doubt there is a lot of deseption going on in some repair facilities, but we are not ostriches so take our heads out of the sand.
Chrysler has been jerking us around with some serious engineering faults and refusing to treat it's customers in a fair way. Whats worse is that when they recognize they have a problem they continue to market it.
ie: vp 44's lift pumps trannys rusty door problems ect.
not that dodge is alone in this game Ford and Gm do the same thing, but they know if someone switchs brands someone else will be switching to them. Viscous circle and we are their pawns
Chrysler has been jerking us around with some serious engineering faults and refusing to treat it's customers in a fair way. Whats worse is that when they recognize they have a problem they continue to market it.
ie: vp 44's lift pumps trannys rusty door problems ect.
not that dodge is alone in this game Ford and Gm do the same thing, but they know if someone switchs brands someone else will be switching to them. Viscous circle and we are their pawns
#15
Seems like if you use a family owned dealership you'll have a better chance of being treated fairly. I've learned a big difference between our local nationally owned chain dealership and the family owned dealerships. I saw a guy getting scammed at the nationally owned dealership and told him I thought he was being taken. He had his oil changed in his Durango the day before. Then the next morning there was oil on his carport at the front of the engine. He took it back to the dealership and they told him his intake gasket was bad at the rear of the motor. I don't know where the intake gasket would leak oil and even if it did at the rear of the motor, he would have found oil on the floor near the rear of the motor. The oil filter is at the front of the motor. I told him I think they shrewed up the oil filter or didn't tighten it properly. I recommended he take it to the family owned Chrysler dealer where they treated me right with the tranny sensor. Then I had a wheel replace under warranty on my '03. The national dealer used a rubber stem for a Neon. I raised cain and they said it was fine. I went to the family owned dealer and talked to the service manager. He got big eyed and they replace my stem with the proper one. He said they get alot of business from unhappy customers with the national dealer. What a sham. I mean shame.