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Where God Ain't"
He was just a little boy, on a week's first day.
He was wandering home from Sunday School, and dawdling on the way.

He scuffed his shoes into the grass; he found a caterpillar.
He found a fluffy milkweed pod, and blew out all the "filler."

A bird's nest in a tree overhead, so wisely placed on high.
Was just another wonder that caught his eager eye.

A neighbor watched his zig zag course, and hailed him from the lawn;
Asked him where he'd been that day and what was going on.

"I've been to Bible School," he said and turned a piece of sod.
He picked up a wiggly worm replying, "I've learned a lot of God."

"M'm very fine way," the neighbor said, "for a boy to s pend his time."
"If you'll tell me where God is, I'll give you a brand new dime."

Quick as a flash the answer came! Nor were his accents faint.
"I'll give you a dollar, Mister, if you can tell me where God ain't."

Barry Smith

I'm enjoying this discussion. I'm 31 and I was saved last Dec. It was a moment I will never forget. Not only was it a feeling I had that God had laid his hands on me it affected everything in my life from the way I treated others to watching what I said. I've believed in God all of my life but I had been pretty wild an never really took my religion seriously. My daughter was born last year and looking at your new born baby NObody in the world could say there is no God! Since I was saved we've had bad times and good times but it seems alot more good times since we've had God in our lives. I now realize everything God has done for me and I'm overwelmed. I'm sure I'll do alot things God will not be to proud of but I'm trying now that is the difference, that and I've taken the Lord as my Savior so no matter how bad it gets the Lord will be there for me.

Barry

NORM

there aint no substitute for experience.

Psalms 34:8. Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good; Blessed is the man who trusts in Him!

Palmetto_kid

The closer your get to God, the harder Satan will try to destroy your life. He is here to steal, kill, and destroy. Dont think that because something bad happens to you, that God is trying to ruin your life, or make you pay for something. Keep your faith because everything happens for the good of the Lord. Read the book of Job & keep the faith.

"God blesses the people who patiently endure testing. Afterward they will recieve the crown of life that God has promised those who love him." James 1:12

bdramsey

I have found that there are bad times, and good times. I have seen bad times, like referred to above, but they seemed worse, however they were fewer and far between. I have found the the devil (adversary) comes agains my family and I through different avenues. The closer I get to God the more deperate the devil gets, its not easy, but at least I can use these trials as a litmus so that I can view spiritual growth.
If the devil already has you then he doesn't have any reason to come against you, if God has you, then the devil comes against you, God allows him to come against us. I remember when I first got born again, things that seemed so traumatic, or stressful made it appear that I would fail, if the same thing happened today, then it would not be so hard to deal with, it would seem simple and easy. I have had ups and downs over the last year, trials and tribulations, seemed like it would never end...... but I'm still a Christian, all the turmoil, but I never gave up. Why? Because Jesus is there for me. He is with me always.

How many of you remember that poem "footsteps"?

the part that sticks in my memory is "when I saw only one set of footprints, this was at the bad times in my life, you promised you would always be there, why are the only one set? he says "that was when I carried you"

TurbosAmongUs

Then why do it? If the worse it will be in the long run...take a step back a re-evaluate that statement? Is Christianity's idea of Heaven worth that kind of torture here on earth till you die?

Palmetto_kid

This sounds like a ploy from the great deciever himself.

Yes, it is worth it. Its about faith, love, and staying focused on the finished line. Read about Job's trials in the book of Job. It is probly the greatest testament of faith I have ever read.

Nobody said living the Christian life is easy. Its not a walk in the park. Does anyone here know about "Spiritual Warfare"? There are things going on in this world that most Christians dont even know about.

TurbosAmongUs, you ask why I do it? I do it because I love my Father in Heaven, I love His Son, and what His son did for me. He has blessed my life more than I deserve. I am here to serve him, and further His Kingdom. Will the devil and his chronies be there along the way to trip me up? You bet they will, and I will be there to get on my knees and praise Jesus for loving me.

Eternity has no end. Where will you spend it?

TurbosAmongUs

Whatever works for YOU...by all means go for it.There's nothing better than being content in life and happy...however you get your hapiness,then more power to you.

t-15 firefighter

Fine…..I’ll be the lone dissident.

Do I believe in god? Yes. Do I believe in religion? Nope.

If this tread is really about acceptance of what you believe then all of the post after mine should be interesting. I will be the first to admit that I lean to the left more than others. Especially on this site. I know that the majority of people on this forum are conservative (sometimes very conservative) and I am drastically not.
I grew up in a Christian family. I went to church every time the doors were open. And I hated it. Never have liked it. I was taught everything that you were supposed to believe but it never fit with me.
Now I realize that most take the Bible as a literal translation of history but I just can’t see it. I mean really….Jonah live in the belly of a whale? Sure…..
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not mocking the Bible. I just don’t believe most of the stories in it. I could believe more of them if they were put forth as parables. But not literal translations of what happened. What I don’t understand is someone posted earlier that they don’t believe in carbon dating because it could be manipulated by man into what he wants it to be. I guess given that argument then the same could be said for religion.

Lets say this. Most (not all but most) of you grew up in some sort of religious family. Which means that you will most likely have the same beliefs as your family. Not always (I’m a prime example of that) but most likely.
Now if that is somewhat true then lets take this example: there are 1,261,832,482 people as of July 2000 living in China. 96% of the population is Daoist (Taoist) or Buddhist with Muslim making up 2-3% and Christianity making up less than 1% of the total population. Now if we can all agree to some extent that we will most likely have the same belief as our families or the region that we live in then I suppose that 1,249,214,157 people are condemned to hell because they have no outside influence of Christianity? Now lets hypothesize that 30% of people in China have heard of Christianity and had the chance to accept or reject it. Since China is a state run government I can’t imagine that 30% have had that chance but lets say they did. Does that mean that 70% (almost 900 million) of the population (the part that didn’t get to choose) goes to hell?
Christianity makes up 33% of the worlds population. So 66% of the world is going to hell? This is just one of the reasons that I don’t do religion. I could give countless more reasons as I’m sure you all could as to the contrary.

Now please don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying I’m right in any way or that everyone else is wrong. I just don’t believe it myself. I wouldn’t ever want to sway what someone believes because of my beliefs. As I said at the first of this post, it will be interesting to see what happens now. Will I be banned from the site? We’ll see.
I’m not trying to start a debate and please don’t PM me trying to convert me. I get enough PM’s about my political opinions so I can only imagine what this will do.

Man….I keep telling myself to stay away form the “other” threads but I can’t stop myself.

Let the flames begin! Pun intended.

Joe N.

If the Bible is true, and I believe it is, it teaches that hell is a real place and is a place of separation from God. The Bible also teaches that hell is a place of torment, a horrible place of fire and suffering beyond anything we can conceive of on this earth. There is only one way to escape that torment and that is to believe in Jesus, that he was God's son, came to earth and lived a perfect life, was crucified for our sins, and was resurrected on the thrid day. We must believe that and admit that we are a sinner and trust in Jesus to save us from our sins.

Someone raised the question of God's love and said if He loves us then we will all go to heaven. Think about this. If you are a parent, I am sure that one day one of your children disobeyed you. Your response was most likely some kind of punishment because you love your child and want him/her to obey your rules because you know your rules are what are best for your child. God made the rules and if you disobey his rules you will be punished and that punishment lasts forever. He is perfect and cannot and will not break His own rules because if He did He would no longer be perfect. You may not like that and you may think it is harsh but what counts is that God says there is one way to salvation and that is by grace through faith. In Ephesians 2:8-9 the Bible says "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast."

I read in the book "Hell? Yes!" that Jesus actually talked more about hell than He did about heaven. If Jesus put that much emphasis on hell we had better believe that it is serious.

The Bible is either right or wrong, there is no in between. If it is wrong then there is no hell and man can live like he wants with no fears. But, if the Bible is right, and again I believe it is, any person that refuses to believe in Jesus and trust Him for salvation will be condemed to hell for eternity. Read what the Bible has to say about hell. It is a terrible, horrible place that we should all fear. If a person goes to hell it is by their own choosing. We all are faced with the choice of heaven or hell. Which is your choice?

bdramsey

Be a dissident...... You are not alone.
It doesn't say a whale.
Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Carbon Dating- How can scientist prove that it is accurate? Have there been and time tested experiments? They say the earth is millions of years old..... by thier date methods, were any on this planet at the laying of the foundations? If I remember correctly the post said that God can make the date appear whatever he wanted it to be.

Will that many goto hell? Who am I to tell but the scripture says :
John 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I don't see why you should be banned. This thread was intended to be a heavy discussion, I don't hink they will ban somone unless they violate the rules of the site.

Let me ask you, is this a story?
Luke 16:19 ¶ There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Does this look like a "story"?

Read the first post of this thread. I wrote what I wrote so that people would know before hand what the discussion would be, so if somone is offended, they don't need to read the thread.

What good would it do to try and "convert" you? The Bible clearly says that no one comes to God unless he draws them. Anything else would be a waste of time. The great commision is to go into all the world and preach the gospel, not cram it down thier throats.
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Brennan

t-15 firefighter

fish, whale, whatever. you know what i meant. fish is even harder to believe.

how can scientist prove that carbon dating is accurate? how can you prove the bible is accruate. it is just something you have to believe.

once again, i'm not saying your wrong i just don't believe the same thing you do.


britt

Joe N.

t-7 firefighter,

I don't think anyone would want to see you banned from this site just because you express a different opinion. If we all had to have the same opinion then we would all have to have vehicles just alike and that sure would be dull. We might all be required to have concrete bedliners.

I won't PM you and I won't belittle you because you believe differently from me. I have read several of your posts and I feel like I know you a little - this site is really like one big family. I believe the Bible is true and I don't want anyone to miss out on Heaven. I hope with all my heart that you will be converted but that is your choice.

You said there are some things in the Bible you just cannot believe. If God is who He says He is then He created everything by speaking it into existance. God is able to doing anything and if He chooses to create a big fish to swallow a man then He can do that.

Many of us grew up going to church but when we left home we forgot the church stuff and lived the way we wanted. From time to time we recall some of the stories we were taught and they seem so far fetched we wonder how anyone could believe them. We end believing that parts of the Bible are not true and we make up our own way to salvation. In Proverbs 14:12 it says"There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death."

If you are interested get a modern translation of the Bible, either New Internatinal Version or the New Living Translation. I mentioned those two because I am familiar with them and they are much easier to read than the King James Version. Start reading the New Testament and do your best to understand it then make your judgement on whether or not you believe it is true.

Regardless of what you believe we can still have friendly conversations about our differences. Just remember there are no CTDs in hell!

By the way, I have family living in LR and Conway. I want you to know how much I appreciate you and the other fire fighters and police officers for protecting us. You guys don't get anywhere near the recognition that you deserve. Thank you for being willing to put your life on the line to protect my family and others.

bdramsey

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
one example where it was documented in the Bible where the earth was round.
When did columbus fall off the edge of the earth??


The God of Science

Science is a systematic knowledge of the physical or material universe gained by observable facts. The sacred writings of all world religions basically contain a system of faith. Yet each do make statements within the province of science that provides a uniquely valid test to prove their authenticity. If their scientific observations are in reality superstitions reflective of the culture in which they were written, these so called sacred books are disqualified as the inspired Scripture of God. If, indeed, the scientific observations of any of these purported Holy Scripture agree with the facts of science today, then that Bible is the inspired Word of a true and living God. Why? The Creator and God of the universe is the God of science — the author of the scientific laws that govern His universe. Only the God of science could cause scientific facts to be recorded in a book —the Bible — hundreds or thousands of years before scientists discover them.

Only the Judeo-Christian Bible contains scientific facts that anticipated scientific discovery by hundreds and in some cases several thousand years. The following are examples of remarkable scientific observations found in the Judeo-Christian Bible.

What Holds the Earth Up?

Three thousand years ago the Hindu scriptures recorded the earth was resting on the backs of several huge elephants. The elephants were resting on the back of a very large turtle that was swimming in a sea. Greek mythology claims that the god Atlas was holding the earth on his shoulders. But our Bible says in Job 26:7 — "[God] hangeth the earth on nothing." What a remarkable statement of fact. The earth is suspended in space. Nothing is holding it up. Job wrote about the same time the Hindu Scripture was written. How did Job know this scientific fact? Only God could have revealed this to Job. The Old Testament prophets wrote as they were moved by the holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21). The Judeo-Christian Bible is the inspired Word of God.

Flat Versus Round Earth

For thousands of years people believed the earth was flat. If one went too far, he would fall over the edge. This was taught in both Hindu and Buddhist scripture. In the 1500s, the first ship sailed around the world. This proved the earth was round. But the round earth was recorded in the Judeo-Christian Bible long before man discovered it in the 1500s.

The prophet Isaiah (40:22) spoke of the "circle of the earth." Solomon wrote, "He [God] set a compass [circle] upon the face of the deep." Proverbs 8:27. In our century, Arabs spoke of infidels being pushed over the edge into space. About 3,000 years ago, our Bible said the earth was round. This was not discovered until 500 years ago. Indeed, the Judeo-Christian Bible is the inspired Word of God.

Sun, Moon and Stars — Who? What?

Ancient people were afraid of the sun, moon and stars. They thought they were alive — that they were gods. But over 5,000 years ago, the Judeo-Christian Bible in the first chapter of Genesis pointed out that the sun, moon and stars were created by God. Remember, our God states that He is the one and only God. This proves the sun, moon and stars that He created are not gods.

Eclipses are an example of what people feared. An eclipse happens when the sun’s light is blocked by the earth or moon. The moon is bright because it reflects the sun’s light. But when the earth blocks that light, the moon looks like it is disappearing. Also, when the moon comes between the earth and the sun, it looks like the sun is disappearing.

This was frightening to people long ago. Some thought eclipses happened when the moon was mad at the earth and turned its face away. The Chinese believed that an eclipse was caused by a demon or some huge animal that ate the sun and then would give them up again. God told Jeremiah (10:2 KJ): "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them." God went on to reassure Jeremiah that the universe is under God’s control.

Later scientists learned that heavenly bodies were not alive and that man need not fear them. Thousands of years before scientists discovered that the planetary bodies were inanimate, the Judeo-Christian Bible contained this scientific fact.

The Bottom of the Ocean

Until modern times people thought the ocean floor was sandy like the desert and saucer shaped—deepest in the middle. This was even true of the pre-1900 geologists. But in the 1900s oceanographers found the sea had many deep valleys or canyons. The deepest canyons were called trenches. The Marianas Trench in the Pacific is so deep that if Mt. Everest (29,000 feet high) was dropped into it, the peak would still be a mile below the water’s surface. There are also underwater mountains. The Atlantic Ocean contains an undersea range of mountains 10,000 miles long.

In addition, 3,000 years ago the Judeo-Christian Bible spoke of the valleys and mountains of the sea. In Psalm 18:15 (NIV) David wrote of God being the creator of "the valleys of the sea." God asked Job (38:16 NIV): "Have you walked in the recesses [valleys] of the sea?" The prophet Jonah was thrown off a ship and spoke of falling to the bottom of the mountains in the sea (Jonah 2:6).

The Judeo-Christian Bible spoke of the valleys and mountains of the sea thousands of years before scientists discovered them. Indeed our Bible is the inspired Word of God.

The Paths of the Sea

In the 1800s, Matthew Maury, an officer in the United States Navy believed his Bible. As a Christian he loved to read the Bible. One day Maury was reading about the dominion man was given over the animals in Psalm 8. He was amazed that verse 8 spoke of the fish and all creatures that swim in the "paths of the sea." "Paths of the sea"— how could this be? He never knew there was such a thing. He was determined to find them. Maury discovered that the oceans have many paths or currents, which were like rivers flowing through the sea. Maury wrote the first book on oceanography and became known as "the pathfinder of the seas"— "The father of modern navigation."

Maury received his idea about ocean currents from reading Psalm 8:8 which was written about 3,000 years ago by King David. David wrote as he was moved by the Spirit of God and probably never actually saw an ocean.

Incidentally, Psalm 8:8 also spoke of fish in the "paths of the seas." All fishing boats make a good catch in the currents or paths of the sea. They have learned this is where the fish swim.

Lightning, Thunder and Rain

In ancient times, most religious scripture taught that lightning bolts were missiles thrown in anger by their gods.9 In China, Taoist scripture regarded the rainbow as a deadly rain dragon.10 In Confucius scripture, the goddess of lightning, Tien Mu, flashed light on intended victims to enable Lei Kung, the god of thunder to launch his deadly bolts accurately.11

Since rain is so necessary to life, ancient people pondered what caused it. Some tried to stab holes in the clouds with spears. The Vedas (Hindu scripture) advised to tie a frog with its mouth open to the right tree and say the right words and rain would fall.

Our Bible also talks about rain, lightning and storms. But it contains none of these superstitious ideas found in the other so- called scriptures. The Judeo-Christian Bible taught that earth’s weather followed rules and cycles. Genesis 8:22. "While the earth remaineth, seed time and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease."

Job stated (28:26): "God made decrees [rules] for the rain. And He set a way for the lightning of the thunder:" Centuries later, scientists began to discern the "rules for the rain" that Job talked about. Rainfall is part of a process called the water cycle. Here’s how the cycle works. The sun evaporates water from the ocean. That water vapor rises and becomes clouds. This water in the clouds falls back to earth as rain, collects in streams and rivers and makes its way back to the ocean. That process repeats itself again and again.

About 300 years ago, Galileo discovered this cycle. But amazingly the Scriptures described this cycle centuries before. The prophet Amos (9:6) wrote that God "calls for the water of the sea. He pours them out on the land." How did Amos know this? He wrote as he was moved by the Spirit of God.

Actually, scientists are just beginning to fully understand God’s "decrees or rules for the rain." Since 68 BC it was thought that somehow thunder triggered the rainfall. Now scientists are beginning to realize that as stated in Job 28:26, it is lightning that triggers the rain to fall. Job knew this 3,000 years ago. Certainly his writings were inspired of God (2 Peter 1:21).



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bdramsey

Pleiades, Orion and Arcturus


Remember the story of Job? Job was extremely wealthy — enjoying a wonderful family. Then tragedy struck. He lost his wealth. His children were killed and his wife deserted him. Then Job lay in excruciating pain, covered with sores from head to toe. All this was too much for Job. He accused the Lord of being unjust. God didn’t answer Job’s accusation directly. He merely raised questions concerning the wonders of His creation. Three of these questions found in Job 38:31, 32, illustrate the dynamic logic conveyed in God’s questions.

Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

ORION

"Canst thou . . . loose the bands of Orion?" Garrett P. Serviss, the noted astronomer, wrote about the bands of Orion12 in his book CURIOSITIES OF THE SKY.

At the present time this band consists of an almost perfect straight line, a row of second-magnitude stars about equally spaced and of the most striking beauty. In the course of time, however, the two right-hand stars, Mintaka and Alnilam, will approach each other and form a naked-eye double; but the third, Alnitak, will drift away eastward so that the band will no longer exist.

In other words, one star is traveling in a certain direction at a certain speed, a second one is traveling in a different direction at a second speed, and the third one is going in a third direction and at a still different speed. Actually every star in Orion is traveling its own course, independent of all the others. Thus, these stars that we see forming one of the bands of Orion are like three ships out on the high seas that happen to be in line at the present moment, but in the future will be separated by thousands of miles of ocean. In fact, all these stars that at the present time constitute the constellation of Orion are bound for different ports, and all are journeying to different corners of the universe, so that the bands are being dissolved.

THE PLEIADES

"Canst thou bind the sweet influence of the Pleiades . . . ?" Notice the amazing astronomical contrast with the Pleiades. The seven stars of the Pleiades are in reality a grouping of 250 suns. Photographs now reveal that 250 blazing suns in this group are all traveling together in one common direction. Concerning this cluster, Isabel Lewis of the United States Naval Observatory tells us: 13

Astronomers have identified 250 stars as actual members of this group, all sharing in a common motion and drifting through space in the same direction.

Elsewhere Lewis speaks of them as "journeying onward together through the immensity of space."

From Lick Observatory came this statement of Dr. Robert J. Trumpler:14

Over 25,000 individual measures of the Pleiades stars are now available, and their study led to the important discovery that the whole cluster is moving in a southeasterly direction. The Pleiades stars may thus be compared to a swarm of birds, flying together to a distant goal. This leaves no doubt that the Pleiades are not a temporary or accidental agglomeration of stars, but a system in which the stars are bound together by a close kinship.

Dr. Trumpler said that all this led to an important discovery. Without any reference whatsoever to the Book of Job, he announced to the world that these discoveries prove that the stars in the Pleiades are all bound together and are flying together like a flock of birds as they journey to their distant goal. That is exactly what God said. "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades?" In other words, Canst thou keep them bound together so that they remain as a family of suns?

INCREDIBLE! God's laws of cosmology are loosing or dissolving the constellation Orion. Sometime in the far distant future, Orion will be no more. Conversely, wonder of wonders — every last one of the 250 blazing suns in the Pleiades are ordained of God to orbit together in their symmetrical beauty throughout eternity.

ARCTURUS

"Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?" Garrett P. Serviss wrote:15

Arcturus, one of the greatest suns in the universe, is a runaway whose speed of flight is 257 miles per second. Arcturus, we have every reason to believe, possesses thousands of times the mass of our sun. Think of it! Our sun is traveling only 12 ½ miles a second, but Arcturus is traveling 257 miles a second. Think then of the prodigious momentum this motion implies.

A further observation of Arcturus by Serviss reveals: 16

It could be turned into a new course by a close approach to a great sun, but it could only be stopped by collision head on with a body of enormous mass. Barring such accidents, it must, as far as we can see, keep on until it has traversed our stellar system, whence it may escape and pass out into space beyond to join perhaps one of those other island universes of which we have spoken.

Charles Burckhalter, of the Chabot Observatory, added an interesting note regarding this great sun: 17

This high velocity places Arcturus in that very small class of stars that apparently are a law unto themselves. He is an outsider, a visitor, a stranger within the gates; to speak plainly, Arcturus is a runaway. Newton gives the velocity of a star under control as not more than 25 miles a second, and Arcturus is going 257 miles a second. Therefore, combined attraction of all the stars we know cannot stop him or even turn him in his path.

When Mr. Burckhalter had his attention called to this text in the book of Job, he studied it in the light of modern discovery and made a statement that has attracted worldwide attention:18

The study of the Book of Job and its comparison with the latest scientific discoveries has brought me to the matured conviction that the Bible is an inspired book and was written by the One who made the stars.

The wonders of God’s universe never cease to amaze us. Arcturus and his sons are individual runaway suns that seem to be out of orbit in our galaxy. Traveling at such incredible speeds, why don’t they crash with other suns or planets? Where are they headed? Only God knows. Indeed they are not runaways. They will not crash. Why? God is guiding them.

The Lesson of The Pleiades, Orion, and Arcturus

Few have suffered the multiple tragedies of Job. How could God reach through the enormity of Job’s self-pity? (Job thought God just didn’t care.) In these three questions (Job 38:31, 32) God is in reality saying:

Job, you think I am not concerned about your suffering. Well, let Me ask you these questions. Can you loose the bands of Orion? No, you cannot. But My Divine power will. Some day Orion will no longer exist. Job, can you bind the 250 stars of the Pleiades together in their symmetry of beauty and not have a single one drift off? Only I have this power and wisdom. Can you prevent the runaways — Arcturus and his sons — from colliding as they go dashing out of the Milky Way? No, only My Divine power and wisdom can.

Job, if I am caring for the details of the universe, do you doubt that I not only care for the details of your life, but I have the ability to solve your problems? Trust that there is a good reason I am permitting these tragedies. Remember, Job, I work from the perspective of your eternal welfare.

What an awesome way God chose to tell Job that He was in full control of human affairs, including Job's life!

The Lesson of Job for Us

Some write off the history of Job as Old Testament folklore. Whoever heard of God talking to a man! These are hand-me-down tales! However, the account of Job cannot be gainsaid. Whatever the method of communication used by God, the astonishing facts cannot be refuted. These scientific facts recorded in the book of Job concerning the Pleiades, Orion and Arcturus anticipated scientific discovery by nearly 3,000 years. Scientists only discovered these startling facts in the Twentieth Century, yet they were recorded in the book of Job nearly 3000 years ago. What an awesome confirmation of the Bible! Who can doubt the Bible is the inspired word of God? Yes, the book of Job has a powerful, exclusive lesson for modern man. Twentieth Century science has proven God’s Word, the Bible, is true.

Other Sacred Books and the Physical Sciences

The Hindu scriptures, the Vedas and Uparushads, consider that "all the objects and phenomena of nature which man is surrounded, are animate and divine."19 This includes the sun, moon, earth, clouds, rain, rivers, seas and rocks as being alive. Writers of the Buddhist canon also ascribe life to numerous non-living objects— sun, moon, lightning, rainbows, mountains, etc. The Taoist and Confucian writings of China contain similar errors.

The Koran, the scripture of Islam, written 1,500 years after the Hindu scripture, does not contain many of the ancient superstitions. Yet its observations of the universe are seriously flawed. The Koran speaks of seven literal heavens which are solid.20 These heavens contain lamps or stars whose main purpose is to be "darted at the devils."21 Mohammed wrote that "the sun sets in a sea of black mud."22

Which Bible is Inspired by a Living God?

The Judeo-Christian Scripture made scientific observations that were confirmed centuries later by modern science, while the sacred scripture of other world religions merely reflected the scientific superstitions of their culture. How could the Judeo-Christian Scripture anticipate scientific discovery by 3,000 years? The Judeo-Christian Bible was written by men who were inspired by the Creator and God of the Universe — the God of science. Only the Judeo-Christian Bible is the Divine Revelation provided by our infinite Creator to direct us in the path to eternity

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