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Old 11-21-2003 | 11:10 AM
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Soft Brake Pedal

My brakes went real "soft" this morning. They still work, but are really mushy. It even seems like the pedal sinks a little when I down shift.
The brake fluid level is on fulland the abs light is not on.

Any ideas ??? ???
Old 11-21-2003 | 11:21 AM
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Re:Soft Brake Pedal

Almost sounds to me like your master cylinder is getting ready to take a dump. Napa has one for around $40 or so. If you buy one just make sure you bench bleed it first. This is a must. Maybe someone else can come up with other ideas?
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Old 11-21-2003 | 05:07 PM
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I concur. If nothing is leaking and all of the fittings are nice and tight then your master cylinder is the most likely cause. If you replace yours bench bleed it first. After you install the new one and are bleeding all the brakes follow this piece of advice : Do Not push the pedal all the way to the floor. The piston seals do not like to travel that far. Only push the pedal 2-4 inches. I learned this the hard way on my F-150. Luckily the guy at the parts store was very nice and I got a new master cylinder.
Old 11-21-2003 | 05:50 PM
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Do a search and you should find a way to build your own pressure bleeder. That is a much better way to bleed your brakes. As long as you are bleeding them (hopefully with some kind of power bleeder) this would be the perfect time to flush out all your old fluid since there is a fairly high probability that moisture is what caused the initial problem. Brakefluid is known to be quiet hygroscopic. That means it will absorb water from the air. My book says there is a proper way to bleed them. The way it say is:
RWAB: To bleed the master cylinder,loosten the rear fitting and have your assistant slowly push the brake pedal to the floor and hold it there. Tighten the fitting and repeat until there is no more air. Loosten front fitting and do the same as the rear fitting. Next step: Bleed the combination valve followed by the rwal valve in a similar manner. Next step: Move to the right rear and bleed the wheel cylinder until there is no more air. Proceed to the left rear, right front then left front. Make sure you do it in the proper order. My Haynes manual does say numeruos times to push the brake pedal to the floor in order to bleed the brakes. I personaly believe that you are farther ahead even if you need to rent a power bleeder.
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Old 11-21-2003 | 11:16 PM
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Re:Soft Brake Pedal

MnTom - my chiltons told me the same thing about pushing it to the floor. However when I had to go back to the parts store for another master cylinder, I read the directions that came in the box and it said not to go to the floor and to only go a few inches.

Here is a link to a website that sells the pressure bleeders.

http://www.motiveproducts.com
Old 11-21-2003 | 11:39 PM
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Re:Soft Brake Pedal

:'( :'( It was the MC. After I left the house, the first time I touched the brake pedal, both the ABS and the Brake lights came on. The pedal would fade to the floor.
Since I've never done a MC and have no one to help me, I drove 60 miles and took it to the only Dodge Dealer in this area that I trust. They have done my oil changes and a few other minor things, and have always done a really good job at a reasonable price. The kid that worked on it today was the only one out of four that found and fixed and little exceleration problem I had a few months ago. Except for the reasonable price (and there's probably not one out there, because I called around) they got me in and out in a couple of hours. I like them because they take care of my truck....very few oily handprints, not oily feet on the floor mats, no greasy steering wheel, etc.

Thanks for all your responses,
CR
Old 11-22-2003 | 12:37 AM
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Anytime Crobtex.
Old 11-22-2003 | 01:13 PM
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As long as YOU are happy with the service that is all that matters. Just glad that you were able to get it fixed.
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