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Old 01-04-2007, 08:39 AM
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Engine making terrible noise @ higher RPMs

Ok guys I'm looking for some help before I give up and head to the local cummins shop. I had the head gasket changed on my '98 12valve and now it makes a terrible noise starting around 2000 rpm. The noise gets louder as rpm increases. The noise is also worse when the truck is driving as opposed to being revved. I first thought maybe the turbo had something wrong with it but after listening harded to the noise I can hear the turbo spool up and it sounds normal. My second thought was maybe the valves were out of spec seeing as it just came from a head gasket change. I took it back to the mechanic and he readjusted all of the valves and said the #5 and #6 cylinders were a little off. This helped a little but the noise is still there. Really, it still sounds like the valves are out of adjustment but I'm no diesel mechanic.
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Last time I had that happen was with my Duece and a half in the military...adjusted the valves while the motor was cold and had the noise once the mill warmed up as they were a bit too tight. Is it a whistling noise or almost a constant rattle?
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It definitally isn't a whistling noise, but it could be a constant rattle.
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Sounds like the exhaust valves may be adjusted too far and not closing all the way but then this is speculative and not being there to hear it, I would get the specs and pop the vc's off and check them before driving it any further.
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Is it RPM sensitive or load sensitive.I ask because you said its when your driving,not revving it.2000RPM is the same under load or revving in N,so I am guessing its load sensitive.It sounds like you may have a boost leak to me.Check all your connections,and the intake horn to intake gasket first.
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OK, let me clear this up a little. When I rev the engine, with no load, the engine does make the noise. The noise is just louder when under load. The difference in volume is noticable but it isn't huge. I hope this clears everything up a little. I'm going to try adjusting the valves saturday but please keep the suggestions coming.
Thanks for the ideas eyoung and john!
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Sure sounds like the valve lash.
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I have a similar rattle in my 92- sounds like a valve adjustment problem or maybe an injector knock. Being I dont have a tach, I cant give you exact RPMs, but it seems to start at about 35mph in 3rd (manual), and 50ish in 4th. Definitely load related. I readjusted the valves to .010 and .020 (stone cold first thing AM) as per the book. I had set them to .009 and .019 when I put the pump on 2 weeks ago, then reset them yesterday, to no change, except slightly higher EGT at cruise. Guess it's time to pressurize the intake system and look for leaks.

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I spent most of the morning re-adjusting the valves and sure enough that was the problem. All of the valves were adjusted too tightly. I backed them off a little and now the truck runs pretty good. Thanks for all the help guys.
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Same thing happened to my '98 the first time I adjusted the valve lash - according to the instructions... engine wouldn't even start, so I went back and did them again my way (@ 75K miles ago).
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