Bio has just made an appearence on LONG ISLAND. I did some corospondance(sp) with the owner.It seems to be a motorcycle place that is selling the stuff in the back. He says that he is installing a high capacity tank as we speak.

as of now, only b100 is available, and when the new pump is ready he will also have b20. BTW i believe he sells diesel powered motorcycles, is that true?

Now for some questions. What should i expect to pay for B100? What should i run? B20? should i go there and put 5-10 gallons in , then go to a gas station and top her off with fuel?

What do i need to know about his particular stuff? how do i know that this is legitimate bio? Is there a permit or something that this fella needs to show that the taxes were paid?

Thanx for the help in advance, all replies are appreciated. And please answer any questions i forgot to ask

 

I'd be curious to know if they're using fresh feedstock, or transesterfieing used feedstock, ie waste fryer oil.

Expect to pay more than petro-diesel. I've seen it for $2-$3 a gallon, maybe more.

A 5% concentration would be a good, safe starting point, and gradually increase from there. Keep in mind, this stuff has a higher cloud point causing it to gell sooner in cold temps than petro-fuel.

Hope this helps, it's only the tip of the iceberg. Search the net, there's a wealth of info on it.

 

Dodgedude361, I just picked up 40 gallons of b100 yesterday at $3/gal. This is the highest I've ever paid, prices are going up. You can easily blend up to b20 (20%) without any issues. There is NO need to 'ease into it' or gradually blend up. I've run bio since 2001, using blends from b20 to straight b100 with great results in 3 vehicles.

As far as blending - there is no secret trick to it. You can dump in 10 gals and then go fill on top of it, or the other way around. As far as taxes, you don't need to worry about it if you're purchasing it, that's the seller's issue.

You'll know it's legitimate bio because it will be light to dark yellow/amber, and will smell like fryer oil. Put some on your fingers and it's reallly slippery/greasy. I have never heard of anyone selling fake biodiesel - the type of people that typically get into biodiesel are there for the benefits to society. You can ask who makes the bio, and whether or not it's made from WVO or virgin oil, however if the fuel meets ASTM standard it really doesn't matter. There is much more environmental benefiit to running WVO sourced biodiesel, and it also has a higher cetane than virgin bio. WVO bio has a slightly higher cloud point, but at blends of b20 and below, you won't really need to worry about that. If you have a few weeks there in NY that get below 0F, throw in some antigel additives, as you probably should even using petro.

 

I had some question, so I e-mailed a supplier close to me and here's his reply.

PS. my questions are at the end.


Chuck,
The main modification will be your rubber hoses for the fuel lines. The fuel filter will need to be changed in one month then again in another 2. Make sure you crack them open to see how dirty they have become.
Bio-diesel is a detergent and will clean your engine and this is the cause of the filter changes. Please consult your owners manual or the engine manufacture to determine your warranties using bio-diesel.
We sale bio-diesel by bulk, which means the smallest quantity available would be 55 gallon drums.
B100 = $4.10 gallon
B20 = $3.28 gallon
The price can change on the B20 depending on the market value of diesel at the time of purchase.
I can sale drums out of our Escondido plant.
Your mileage should improve as well as over all performance and less down time due to maintenance as well.

Let me know your thoughts,

Tony Campbell
760-801-0190


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Tony,

I found your name the Biodiesel distributor's site and I have a few questions and I was wandering if you could answer them for me.

1) I have a 1996 Dodge with the Cummins motor. What blend if any could I run in my truck without any modifications?
2) Would my fuel mileage stay the same?
3) What is the price per gallon?
4) Is there a place closer to Escondido that would sell Biodiesel?

Thank you in advance for your time

Chuck Winkle

 

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The owners name is Carl Vogel. They only sell it by appointment at this time. As i said they are putting in high cappacity tanks in now. When rthey are in, it will be easier to get it. He also informed me that he was going away on bussiness for 3 weeks, and that the Bio was not available whiile he was not there. Therefor, i have not gotten any yet. He is returning on the 6th, or 8th . When he returns i will call him and set up an appointment.

BTW he is close to you, Bayshore i believe. When i make a purchase i will upgrade this thread.