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Old 06-05-2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DBLR
Sure it will go down didn't the Donkey party say they will fix every thing for us that the Elephant party messed up and make it all better?
Or make it worse.
Old 06-05-2008 | 01:13 PM
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Getting back to the topic at hand, I truley believe for those who use them, there will always be a market for HD trucks and diesels in particular. I am an occasional user (lighter duty) of my truck, however it's also being partially leased to a friend with a skid-steer for his business this summer. If you make money with your truck, you should not worry about the fuel costs but rather handle your taxes, writeoffs and mileage for business use.

For those who use thier truck for hauling travel trailers (for pleasure, not business) or a boat to the lake, a serious choice has to be faced, that of the cost of transport for recreation purposes, or the cost of selling and downgrading the fleet into smaller, lighter veichles, trailers, boats, etc.

Unfortunetly - this is where my beef is at with all these new regulations on emissions & fuel economy. Down the road, someone else is deciding that this industry should falter and is trying to impose upon others what vehichle they will drive. This isn't thier stated intent, however it is quite clearly implied.
Old 06-05-2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by robins
I am no expert. But this would be my swag (Scientifically wild ___ guess) at it. I would bet that in the next few years the oil prices go back down to a more reasonable price.

Why because the American people will not put up with it. I see the Searia club and other tree huggen californian organizations getten the boot, when more oil wells are drilled and more refineries built.

This isn't a supply issue. It's a speculation issue. If they build more refineries and drill more wells, big oil will still sell you the fuel you need at the highest prices they can get. They're currently sending 500,000 bbls a day of domestic fuel overseas. Welcome to the global economy.

If you think I'm BSing you about conspiracy and profiteering, I've already lived through it. I recall a few years back that there wasn't enough electricity to go around. The spot prices for KWHours was going up so fast you couldn't keep track. Enron was at the root of this, although they denied it and the federal gov't refused to help. The house of cards collapsed after a year of so.

I was wondering where all these shysters and crooks went after Enron...now I know they went to big oil.

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Old 06-06-2008 | 11:16 AM
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When we allow a few companies to control the whole market you can bet it will cost us more and we all lose in the end be it oil, natural gas, food, electricity etc!
Old 06-06-2008 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DBLR
When we allow a few companies to control the whole market you can bet it will cost us more and we all lose in the end be it oil, natural gas, food, electricity etc!
yup, and now it seems that we have investment companies that are in the oil business! they make outrageous predictions about future prices, withhold millions of barrels of oil from the marketplace, artificially drive up prices, and make out like thieves on both ends when their investors make millions and they make billions on THEIR OIL!
http://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/...age-tanks.html
Old 06-06-2008 | 12:57 PM
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dead on!!!!

so refreshing to see someone else post this...

live in Tulsa, but just got back from picking a scooter from California, Mo. had a chance to cruise a bit of Mo.... almost all the gas stations I passed are BP...

mass consolidation of oil companies means NO effective competition, leading to .... you guessed it higher pricing...

now repeat for almost all of our major industries...

Originally Posted by DBLR
When we allow a few companies to control the whole market you can bet it will cost us more and we all lose in the end be it oil, natural gas, food, electricity etc!
Old 06-06-2008 | 01:13 PM
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Everyone should know that vehicles are a terrible investment item. You make the best deal possible and them drive it till the wheels fall off. That's the best route.

mmmm I bought my AMX in 1980 for a whopping $2200. Car has won many trophies including 2nd at Hershey . .... NADA value low= $13,250 Average=$25,785 High=$43,245. Sure I have some coin in it but not anywhere near the even the low value...


Maybe apples to oranges because a new car or Harley isnt an investment .
Old 06-07-2008 | 01:14 PM
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every so often, in a society, you have to flush the toilet, A new laser giellotine primarily for the rich, should do it! simply put, it takes about 200yrs. for the money accumulators, to get it together, then you have to make radical changes. HEY! I didnt make the rules!!!
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