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Old 08-30-2006, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
WH1C was on the 94 2nd gens debut.
Also found on some early 95's

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Id like to see a list that will let us compare apples to apples.

Like how does an ats aurora 5000 compare to an II sps 66?

Is a B2 bigger than an HTT 62/htb2 or smaller?

Somthin like that, that can maybe show compressor and exhaust sizes.
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Aurora 5000 is an S400 "hybrid" ...uses a 71mm compressor wheel, and god knows what for turbine housing. II SPS66 uses 66mm compressor,a and a 71mm turbine wheel in a .8 A/R housing! (I think on the SPS66)

B2 is MUCH bigger that any S300...which is what the II PS's and HTT Series of chargers are based on!

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I appriciate the responce but I ment for those questions to be more of an example of what I was lookin for in the turbo comparison list. However I have really been wonderin just how big the A 5000 was.
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Originally Posted by wap
Id like to see a list that will let us compare apples to apples.

Like how does an ats aurora 5000 compare to an II sps 66?

Is a B2 bigger than an HTT 62/htb2 or smaller?

Somthin like that, that can maybe show compressor and exhaust sizes.
This is what I'm going for. How are they comparable? What turbo's from who make around the same power? What characteristics are better or worse? That sort of thing. I would like some sort of database to look at and compare them directly without having to own them all.

Something like this would be great. Except I want to know what turbo they are based off of, and what is comparable as far as how fast they spool, capable boost levels, that sort of thing.

B-1 Bomber
Recommended for mid to high horsepower manual transmission trucks.

B-1-EX3
Same as a B-1 but has a HX-35 exhaust outlet.

B-1-EX4
Same a a B-1 but has a HX-40 exhaust outlet.

B-1-2

recommended for mid to high horsepower,but with faster spoolup than a B-1.

B-1-2-EX3
Same as a B-1-2 but has a HX-35 exhaust outlet.


B-1-2-EX4
Same as a B-1-2 but has a HX-40 exhaust outlet.

KSB-1 Bomber
Recommended for mid to high horsepower with faster spoolup then a B-1-2.


KSB-1-EX4
Same as a KSB-1 but has an HX-40 exhaust outlet.

KSB-1-2
Very fast spoolup, high altitude, automatic transmission.

KSB-1-2-EX4
Same a a KSB-1-2 except it has a HX-40 exhaust oulet.

B-1-2-Tow
Recommended for tow vehicles with manual transmissions.

B-KSB-1-2-Tow

Recommended for tow vehicles with automatic tranmissions.

K-45-4-EX3
Recommended as a HX 35 replacement, fast spoolup, great for towing, not recommended for competition.


K-45-4-EX4
Same as a K-45-4-EX3 but has a HX-40 exhaust outlet.

B-1-04
Recommended for mid to high horsepower manaul transmission 3rd generation truck.

B-1-2-04
Recommended for mid to high horsepower, faster spoolup then a B-1-04, for 3rd generation truck.

KSB-1-2-03
2003 bolt on turbo.

B-1-Steroid
High performance, special order, max horsepower, not recommended for daily driver.

this is what I'd like to see: B-1-2
recommended for mid to high horsepower,but with faster spoolup than a B-1, and is comparable to a HTT htb2 or something.

Here are some more:
Phat Shaft 62: 1994-2002

Phat shaft 62 for the Dodge Cummins 12 Valve 1994 to 1998. Supports 300 - 550hp and can be upgraded to 64 or for a new Dodge 62mm extended tip compressor inside a performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for longer life. Low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation.


Phat Shaft 62: 2003-2005

Phat shaft 62 for the Dodge Cummins 24 CR Valve 2003 to 2006. Supports 300 - 550hp and can be upgraded for more horse power. 62mm extended tip compressor inside of a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. Comes ready to mount to the stock exhaust elbow and is a drop in replacement for the 6 Speed transmissions. NOTE: Turbo comes with all install components; however, a Boost Fooler is needed if truck is a 2004.5 or newer. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation on trucks with the automatic transmission.

Super Phat Shaft 62: 1994-2002

Super Phat shaft 62 for the Dodge Cummins 24 Valve 1994 to 1998. Supports 300 - 550hp. 62mm extended tip compressor inside a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Custom low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation.

Super Phat Shaft 62: 2003-2005

Super Phat shaft 62 for the Dodge Cummins 24 CR Valve 2003 to 2006. Supports 300 - 550hp. 62mm extended tip compressor inside a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Custom low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. Comes ready to mount to the stock exhaust elbow and is a drop in replacement for the 6 Speed transmission NOTE: Turbo comes with all install components; however, a Boost Fooler is needed if truck is a 2004.5 or newer. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation on trucks with the automatic transmissions.

Super Phat Shaft 64: 1994-2002

Phat shaft 64 for the Dodge Cummins 24 Valve 1998.5 to 2002. Supports 350 - 575hp and can be upgraded for a new Dodge. 64mm extended tip compressor inside a performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation.


Super Phat Shaft 66: 1994-2002

Super Phat shaft 66 for the Dodge Cummins 24 Valve 1994 to 2002. Supports 400 - 650hp and can be upgraded into a twin setup. 66mm extended tip compressor inside a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Custom low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft.The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation.

Super Phat Shaft 66: 2003-2005

Super Phat shaft 66 for the Dodge Cummins 24 CR Valve 2003 to 2006. Supports 400 - 650hp and can be upgraded into a twin setup. 66mm extended tip compressor inside a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Phat shaft comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Custom low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. Comes ready to mount to the stock exhaust elbow and is a drop in replacement for the 6 Speed transmission NOTE: Turbo comes with all install components; however, a Boost Fooler is needed if truck is a 2004.5 or newer. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation on trucks with the automatic transmissions.

Silver Bullet: 1994-2002

Silver Bullet for the Dodge Cummins 24 Valve 1994 to 2002. The Silver Bullet was designed for big horse power and to minimize surge. It is capable of supporting 800+ HP. It features a 66mm extended tip compressor and a quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Silver Bullet also comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty but what makes the Silver bullet unique is its one of a kind custum design turbine. NOTE: Turbo comes with all install components; however, the HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation.

Silver Bullet: 2003+

Silver Bullet for the Dodge Cummins 24 CR Valve 2003 to 2006. The Silver Bullet was designed for big **** power without surge and is the best turbocharger on the market. Supports 400 - 750hp and can be upgraded into a twin setup. 66mm extended tip compressor inside a one piece performance compressor housing. Quick spool turbine housing with dual oversized wastegate passages. The Silver Bullet comes with high speed dual grooved bearings for extreme duty. Custom low back pressure turbine wheel attached to a Phat Shaft. Comes ready to mount to the stock exhaust elbow and is a drop in replacement for the 6 Speed transmission NOTE: Turbo comes with all install components; however, a Boost Fooler is needed if truck is a 2004.5 or newer. The HX40 downpipe and clamp are required for installation on trucks with the automatic transmissions.

K31 Hybrid: 71mm inducer, Several options (800HP)

S300G (Schwitzer):

HX35/40 Hybrid: 1994-2002

HX40 Upgrade Turbo: 1994-2002

B-2/S400
Used for twin turbo applications, outperforms HT3B, 600-700 HP.

Big Brother/S4T

The one that takes first in all classes, twin turbo application 800-900 HP.

Phat
132 mm inducer, 1.15A/R, 5" exhaust outlet, twin turbo application up tp 1600 HP.

What's the difference between an s400 and an s4t?

HTBG (350-425 HP)

HTB2/62 (450-500 HP)

HTB2/64 (500-550 HP)

HTB2/66 (550-600 HP)

Holset Super 40

Holset Pro 50
Old 09-02-2006, 07:42 AM
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Thats a little more like it
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Originally Posted by Begle1
5 red bars...

HY-35: The stock Holset turbo from (blank to blank) automatic-equipped trucks; it has a 9 cm wastegate housing which makes it suck.
I thought these turbos blew not sucked. Well I guess if you blow on one end you need to suck on the other. That explains why everyone is going with aftermarket huffers on gen 3s.

L8r,..........dogger

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Old 09-05-2006, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wap
Thats a little more like it
I just wish you got more info. Like the HP range of ALL of them, including twins combos. Not only HP range, but capable boost levels and what it's parent turbo is...Am I asking too much??
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Can we make this a sticky or something? Re-name it something like a turbo database. For those who know it would be appreciated for some input on how each behaves in specific applications and what turbo's behave in a similar way.
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Here are some more HTT specs:

Like our HTB2 turbos, this series uses high torque, extended tip compressors = 62mm/87, 64mm/92, 66mm/96. (Alternate compressor sizes are for comparison to Garrett Powermax advertised compressor sizing.)

“Super Stock 62” +300 HP - 475-575 HP 1100 ft. lbs. torque -
“Quick Diesel 64” +350 HP - 525-575 HP 1200 ft. lbs. torque -
“Pro Street 66” +450 HP - 575-675 HP 1350 ft. lbs. torque

HTBG (+200 HP) - 350-425 HP 950 ft. lbs. torque
HTB2 (+275 HP) - 450-525 HP 1050 ft. lbs. torque (STREET STOCK)
HTB2/64 (+325 HP) - 500-550 HP 1150 ft. lbs. torque (KILLER B-2)
HTB2/66 (+400 HP) - 550-625 HP 1225 ft. lbs. torque (SLED PULLER 66)
FUEL SQUEEZER 400 ......... - 400 HP 1000 ft. lbs. torque

HOLSET new Pro 52 turbos.
This turbo is not a bolt on upgrade. It is for competition. It requires an exhaust inlet adapter to bolt it to your manifold. and it has a 4 9/16 exhaust outlet that you will have to get your exhaust attached to. This turbo has a compressor inducer measuring approx. 71mm and a 16cm2 NON-wastegated turbine housing. It looks like a good strong turbo.

HOLSET HX40W and new SUPER 40 upgrade turbos.
Unlike many turbos sold out of the box, we make the necessary modifications so these turbos fit. The exhaust outlet is 4" and not 3" so we can also provide a downpipe for the 2nd generation trucks. The Super 40 has a redesigned 7-blade compressor and turbine wheel. The shaft is the same size but the assembly is precision balanced as an assembly with the compressor.

H-CHARGER 60/14W Stage III quickspool hybrid HX35/40W HOLSET TURBOCHARGER 325-425 HP
60mm compressor, 14 wastegated turbine housing. NO downpipe required
91-2002

H-CHARGER 60/16 Stage III hybrid HX35/40 HOLSET TURBOCHARGER 350-435 HP
60mm compressor, 16 non-wastegated turbine housing. NO downpipe required but an adapter will be required if using this on a 24 valve.
91-2002

H-CHARGER 60/12W Stage III quickspool hybrid HX35/40 HOLSET TURBOCHARGER 325-410 HP
60mm compressor, 12 wastegated turbine housing. NO downpipe required
91-2002

H-CHARGER 60/12 Stage III quickspool hybrid HX35/40 HOLSET TURBOCHARGER 315-400 HP
60mm compressor, 12 non-wastegated turbine housing. NO downpipe required but an adapter will be required if using this on a 24 valve.
91-2002

H-CHARGER 60/14 Stage III quickspool hybrid HX35/40 HOLSET TURBOCHARGER 325-415 HP
60mm compressor, 14 non-wastegated turbine housing. NO downpipe required but an adapter will be required if using this on a 24 valve.
91-2002
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BHT3B turbo: This turbo is commonly used as the bottom turbo in staged turbo setup for a cummins turbo diesel. This turbo is a very popular choice due to its low cost and ability to support big horsepower. This turbo comes with a variety of different turbine housing choices. We recommend the 26cm housing for daily driving and towing power due to its quick throttle response and low end torque The 32 housing is better suited for sled pulling or competition, due to its better top-end and better egt control. In properly setup twins this turbo is capable of supporing 600-650hp

S400 turbo: it is also referred to as a B2 turbocharger. This turbo is commonly used as the bottom turbo in staged turbo setup for a cummins turbo diesel. It is capable of moving more air than an ht3b and spools as quick if not quicker than an ht3b 26. The B2 rotates the opposite direction as an HT3b so if your thinking about replaceing your ht3b with this your going to have to replumb your twin setup. In properly setup twins this turbo is capable of supporing 650-700hp.

S300 Performance Cummins Turbo - The S300 turbo series features a strong, large shaft, extended tip compressor turbos for aftercooled Dodge Cummins engines. With a 4" exhaust system, free-flowing air box and fuel enough to burn, 350-625 HP is the comfort range for these turbos. The Borg-Warner Turbo Series features extremely durable and responsive chargers. After the initial quick spool-up, the S300 turbos build boost even quicker than other hybrid turbos so that there is plenty of boost at low-end, for towing and, well, for sheer fun. The result is minimal smoke as well as even lower EGT's. This turbo has the equivalent of a 12cm turbine housing and 62mm compressor wheel.
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I'm tired of searching for it....

Can someone tell me how to measure the exhaust housing size and/or what that number refers to? 14 cm what? How do I verify what I have? I hope this isn't too dumb of a question!
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Bumpety bump bump. No takers on an answer? Sure is a lot of turbo info on here for no one to know the answer. Maybe you all are actually working today instead of watching DTR! Peace.
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Originally Posted by 4x4dually
Bumpety bump bump. No takers on an answer? Sure is a lot of turbo info on here for no one to know the answer. Maybe you all are actually working today instead of watching DTR! Peace.
Not me! At work though, waiting for some stuff to finish so I've got time.

Anybody feel free to correct me, but I am pretty sure 14cm is referring to the exhaust housing.
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Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK
Not me! At work though, waiting for some stuff to finish so I've got time.

Anybody feel free to correct me, but I am pretty sure 14cm is referring to the exhaust housing.
Yes. But what? There ain't nothing on here that measures 14cm!!!! Unless, I guess it could be the greatest inside diameter dimension? Just wondering how to measure a turbo and figure out what exhaust housing size it has on it.


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