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Old 01-18-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hdmax
Don't be fooled by all the hype. The 20 mpg is highway max with the regular cab short bed 2 wheel drive.
One of the mags tested the crewmax with the 5.5' bed (Only bed availible) 4x4 towing 7,000# and averaged less then 10 mpg.
Yep, it said very clearly "14/18 for 4x4 model" and that's always the most optimistic spread.

So... less power and capability for worse mileage? Yep, it's a gasser.
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Originally Posted by EClancy
As previously stated, a gm or ford with 200+kmi will not have anywhere near the resale value of a Toyota or Honda with equal milage.
Not all sales are that way. My last truck had a little over 220,000 hard miles, it was a 1/2 ton 4x4 with the 350 V-8 and automatic transmission. The truck also had 11" of lift and 37" tires. It looked very good, still ran great, and I got $19,000 for it on trade for my Duramax. The dealer sold the truck for $12,900.
I would not have paid $5,000 for a truck like that with those miles, but that didn't stop someone from buying it at a premeium. I would bet that if it would have been a tundra, it would have been worthless.
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What the dealer "gave" for the truck on the trade in for a new truck, and the actual cost he has figured into the truck are two totally different amounts. So while on paper it may appear that he gave 19K for your truck, that is not actually the case.

I am with you on not paying even $5K for a truck like that, anytime you lift and put larger tires on a truck, it hurts resale of that truck alot. But I am in the middle of buying a lift, tires and wheels as we speak. You have to go with what you like.
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Originally Posted by Hdmax
Not all sales are that way. My last truck had a little over 220,000 hard miles, it was a 1/2 ton 4x4 with the 350 V-8 and automatic transmission. The truck also had 11" of lift and 37" tires. It looked very good, still ran great, and I got $19,000 for it on trade for my Duramax. The dealer sold the truck for $12,900.
I would not have paid $5,000 for a truck like that with those miles, but that didn't stop someone from buying it at a premeium. I would bet that if it would have been a tundra, it would have been worthless.
Lifted (and non lifted) Toyotas, including Tundra, T100s, and Tacoma all hold there value very well. I looked at a lifted (only 6") 96 T100 not that long ago and it had about 190k and they wanted $7900 for it. It wasn't there for too long, so I assume it sold. On a truck like that, it is all about the buyer, some will pay more for the mods, others think it decreases value.
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I can honestly say that Toyota will never get a dime of my american money.
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if i was in the market for a Lexus truck for weekend home depot warrior use I would get one of those. My thing is they are asking about 10-15K too much. The crew max looks much better than the extended cabs
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I test drove one of these right after driving the 07 megacab I want to get.
It makes a nice car but ...

The mega cab was a couple hundred bucks cheaper for WAY more capability
and toyota wont be going diesel any time soon.

Its for guys to take their wives to the nursery to get some flats of petunias or white collar lunch buddies going to subway

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Oh yeah, Toyota makes a great product and so much more Superior to the domestics....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjTbiYo3x0

you be the judge.
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Originally Posted by Devil Dog
I can honestly say that Toyota will never get a dime of my american money.
Or my Canadian Money!
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Not capable of hanging with the Mighty CTD huh? Maybe not the newest ones, but we weren't always at these power levels of today. It sure looks like the modern day "half ton" is what our previous 3/4 tons were doing. 10,800 lb towing capacity is on par with 3/4 and 1 tons up until the last few years and 10.5" ring gears were the max for years of hard pulling 3/4 tons.

I know, I know, "hook a 2 mile long 5th wheel with my D"85" CAT dozer and 100 tons of steel and we'll see what milage it gets with that gasser engine." Okay whatever. Engines have come a long way in 12 years...


Factory specs for '94-'95 Dodge Cummins Automatic trucks:

Power: 160 bhp @ 2500 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm

Factory specs for this Toyota "half ton"
-381 hp and 401 lb.-ft.
-10,800 lb towing capacity
-10.5" rear ring gear
-6 speed Auto

Not enough torque? What.
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Originally Posted by JLand
Not capable of hanging with the Mighty CTD huh? Maybe not the newest ones, but we weren't always at these power levels of today. It sure looks like the modern day "half ton" is what our previous 3/4 tons were doing. 10,800 lb towing capacity is on par with 3/4 and 1 tons up until the last few years and 10.5" ring gears were the max for years of hard pulling 3/4 tons.

I know, I know, "hook a 2 mile long 5th wheel with my D"85" CAT dozer and 100 tons of steel and we'll see what milage it gets with that gasser engine." Okay whatever. Engines have come a long way in 12 years...


Factory specs for '94-'95 Dodge Cummins Automatic trucks:

Power: 160 bhp @ 2500 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm

Factory specs for this Toyota "half ton"
-381 hp and 401 lb.-ft.
-10,800 lb towing capacity
-10.5" rear ring gear
-6 speed Auto

Not enough torque? What.

Yea I agree we have V6s putting out the power of the small block V8s of the 70s and Small Block V8s putting out Big Block Power of the 70s. I would not trade a 426 hemi for any of the new small blocks but the new Z06 corvette is putting out 500hp now.
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Originally Posted by JLand
Not capable of hanging with the Mighty CTD huh? Maybe not the newest ones, but we weren't always at these power levels of today. It sure looks like the modern day "half ton" is what our previous 3/4 tons were doing. 10,800 lb towing capacity is on par with 3/4 and 1 tons up until the last few years and 10.5" ring gears were the max for years of hard pulling 3/4 tons.

I know, I know, "hook a 2 mile long 5th wheel with my D"85" CAT dozer and 100 tons of steel and we'll see what milage it gets with that gasser engine." Okay whatever. Engines have come a long way in 12 years...


Factory specs for '94-'95 Dodge Cummins Automatic trucks:

Power: 160 bhp @ 2500 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 1500 rpm

Factory specs for this Toyota "half ton"
-381 hp and 401 lb.-ft.
-10,800 lb towing capacity
-10.5" rear ring gear
-6 speed Auto

Not enough torque? What.
Thanks for the info, here's an update It's 2007 and the bar has been raised keep up or move over and let me pass.

just my 02 cents I just don't think the imports are all that and plus I like trying to keep our money in our own economic system a little longer.
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Originally Posted by nirion
Lifted (and non lifted) Toyotas, including Tundra, T100s, and Tacoma all hold there value very well. I looked at a lifted (only 6") 96 T100 not that long ago and it had about 190k and they wanted $7900 for it. It wasn't there for too long, so I assume it sold. On a truck like that, it is all about the buyer, some will pay more for the mods, others think it decreases value.
My buddy has the exact vehicle you mention here. It has been very reliable,but the owner has complained about the tin can doors and church pew seats from new. That being said,however,if I was in the middle of nowhere,I'd welcome the sight of that tin can with the keys in it.
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I find them ugly, honestly. Maybe other people find them attractive, but I can't stand them. Engine wise, maybe its okay, but really...why wouldn't you want a diesel?
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I am surprised that the frame on them will hold up to what they are asking it to do. Also the price of them is at or higher then the price of a Dodge 4x4 with a CTD.


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