But Walmart is evil.......

 

Look what trucks the construction company was using . They are in the background .

http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/minis...undra_tv1.html

 

interesting...that shows the truck starting on level ground but the commercial shows it starting on a hill.

that also does not show the truck stopping on the incline, but the commercial is filmed to make you think it does.....

make me wonder

 

Wrong, diesel usage was the same in 2004 in Iraq as it is now. I am not saying I am for or against Iraq. But that has as much to do with diesel as the price of ice cream in China. The 15 ppg shot the prices up. You didn't notice the price went up when low sulfer was introduced?

 

No , it's Bush's fault . Oil prices went up due to a huge demand in Europe and China as a result of increased trade there . D/C closed down a transmission plant in IN and moved it to China . That German company is moving more jobs out of this country all the time . That's partly due to UAW trying to get D/C to unionize the Mercedes plant in AL . That plant did go union but not with UAW . The greed at that plant cost thousands of American jobs and will discourage further industrialization in southern states where industry thought they could avoid union costs that are killing Ford and GM .

 

I noticed that. Anyone see anything on Ford owning Toyota?

 

Actually prices shot up after Katrina and Rita. I remember this because I purchased my truck two weeks before either one of those hurricanes hit. Diesel was still cheaper than regular unleaded at that time. Ever since then, it has been more. After the USLD went on sale, the prices just stayed up. Its been 30 to 50 cents a gallon more for about a year and a half now. The companies, in my opinion, just decided to take their porfits a little earlier than expected.

 

ok first off not to start anything lol but the toyota tundra was built and designed in princeton indiana toyota plant the plant in texas is a sister plant to the princeton one to help produce more trucks the first tundra was built in princeton indiana i used to work there for acompany that inspected the parts and helped assemble and believe me it is a bad edit truck but pricey and also toyota will own the big 3 in the next 10-15 years maybe not dodge but i forsee chevy and ford with toyota managment in the next 10-15 years if u have any money i would place it in toyota stock it is gonna skyrocket even more than it has now. and they are big on quality if one little thing is wrong with that vehicle it will get offlined and fixed before it ever thinks about going out that door just my 2 cents from someone who worked at the princeton plant not trying to start anything just my 2 cents

 

Joe, the truck was designed in Nagoya, Japan, with help from Toyota Technical Center in Ann Arbor, MI. I used to work in design at TTC. I would bet money that Toyota will buy pieces and parts of the big 3 when/if they hit rock bottom ... to help them build more Toyotas and minimize the costs of getting something up and running. The IN plant built pre-production Tundras. During those builds, there was lots of engineering work done to fix problems, etc. etc. But the actual design (drawings) was not done at the plant. You are 100% right about how the problems are fixed.

 

Exactly. Thinking a CTD 3/4 ton is going to be very price competative to this truck for real out the door prices, especially in the beginning until the tundra drama settles down.

 

my dad priced some this weekend. 2wd, big v-8, auto, limited edition came in over the cost i paid for my CTD a year and a half ago....

 

sorry bad wording u are write drawings stuff like that i meant the pre production and actuall building of truck u are right

 

I saw that ad also it was impressive if its true, did you guys see the most recent one of the truck doing 0 to 60 through the steel doors then slowing just as fast before going off the cliff If that ad is real I would need a big check to be that stunt driver

 

I just priced equiv 4 door long bed 4WD's on edmunds and the cummins only came in $1400 more than the toy for "what others are paying" prices ($35,700 vs $34,300). That was assuming paying $2600 over invoice on the dodge (before rebates), which we all know no one pays that much over invoice (at least I never have or would). Looks like you can get a cummins 3/4 ton for less (or at least the same) than this new "toy".

 

the ram is the old man of the full size trucks so of course they are going to be discounted to compete. try getting a deal on a new loaded Chevy/GMC. i really don't like the way it looks but if they ever got the design right we would be in worse trouble than we are now. I don't think Toyota or Nissan will ever be taken "seriously" until they introduce a diesel. that said if i was getting a gasser it would probably be this toyota...looks like a good rig for my wife. :-)