Link doesn't say ANYthing about CJ. It mentions CG as cutting in half. CI and CH go the distance.

Maybe Cummins is neglecting the "Severe service" category?

Or maybe Dodge is just trying to make more money getting people to perform unneeded oil changes (at the dealer,of course)...

Like you, I'd cut the interval in half for CJ even though the link doesn't mention CJ due to the lower TBN reserve.

JMO

 

Im in the same boat

I love my truck, It does what i want it to do, what i need it to do, BUT if you have ever driven the streets of laredo its just horrible.

My diesel has been reduced at the whoppin life of 195K miles to out of town driving, goin out, and hauling... right now its in my garage, clean, as it should be, I also cringe everytime i hit a bump on my already not stock suspension and crappy shock towers from dodge... and my new daily driver is..

1993 ford ranger 5 speed, 4x4 93K original miles that i couldnt pass up for 2000 dollars, I can always sell it to mexico and get twice what i paid for itanyways so it was an investment

Soon as money aint a problem, a cummins conversion on an F250 isnt out of the question... i know a guy in mexico that will do it, he has a99 350 with a 96 twelve valve that runs sweet... and everything works

Rick

 

I really enjoy mine, but its used for hauling and pulling loads, which to me is the purpose of a truck. A bunch of us get together and haul our 4X4's to the mud park (Quads). I can haul 5 on a trailer with mine without a problem. The gassers are squatted with 3 and getting about 9MPG. The kids love it also and call her "bad to the bone". Me, I just call her Silver.

 

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Rick I am so disappointed in you! A 1993 Ford Ranger?????

BTW,......how is everything going in your new job with the Border Patrol??

Take care buddy.

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John_P

 

Cause everyone knows that leaf springs ride much better than coil springs and a 4-link!

 

N2Moto, you're right around the corner! Yeah it feels nice driving a 12v in Bakersfield. Seems like most people here have Fords. I don't know.

You know my previous '95 reg cab, 5spd, 2wd truck had NO problems. That thing ran strong with 280k miles on it. After getting stuck in the dirt a couple times, not being able to find a lift kit for it (which I outgrew now), and getting tired of shifting I decided I wanted a 4wd and auto tranny. So... I sold that one and got this one and it's roomier, sits higher, and feels better but the 4wd and auto tranny came with a lot of "unexpected issues." For one... I used to get 17-18 city with the '95, with this truck I'd be lucky to break 14. Usually it hovers around 12-13 mpg. I'm scared to calculate my mileage with the way I've been driving it lately. Probably like 10... Hwy mpg is normal though (around 17-21), so I correlate the poor city mpg with the factory tc.

Girlfriend respects my truck and my decisions but she's not really "into it." She want's an Acura RSX. I told her if she gets it, the first thing that's going on it is a turbo...

As far as the Frantz, you're right about that one. I'm so impressed at how clean my oil is at 2000 miles it's not even funny.

 

Could not have said it better myself.

 

what more can I say? I get better mpg's than my Dads gasser,and I could out tow it.I can take it to the mountains etc etc.I had a VW GTI 5-speed got 40mpg.Fast and fun to drive but you just cant beat having a REAL TRUCK!!

 

so why not a buy an economical car as a daily driver and use the truck when and where it is appropriate?

I've tried to always have an extra vehicle around; some kind of econobox in addition to the truck.

 

Redneck. I wasn't clear in my post. WCB was talking about the engine issues. What I ment in my post was driving the same size truck around town isn't any easier to find a parking space, make a lane change,a u turn, etc, etc. weather a diesel or gas.

 

WCB I got better mileage than what you are getting. In fact my wife gets 14+ with our Lance camper on it. (I get 12).

Maybe I'll see you sometime at 5 dogs.

Good luck

 

Well bud all I have to say is im sorry that you have had a bad experience with the diesel truck deal but its my experience that has mad e me NEVER want another gasser for a truck or suv. My diesels even my first one which was an 86 F250 with a 6.9 in it that i drove in high school got better mileage than my 99 Z-71 or even my 08 1/2 ton Dodge 4x4 with a puny 4.7L that barely has enough power to get out of its own way. To get anywhere near the HP and TQ of my Cummins I would have to make my 454 into a bored and stroked engine with at least a 6/71 blower and probably use methanol for fuel which would get me about 3 miles to the gallon and definitely would not be streetable. And Im sorry but yes if you break something on a diesel (AND I MEAN ANY DIESEL) be ready to pay out some cash, but look at how often a properly maintained diesel needs major work compared to a gasser with the same power and abuse thrown at it. And as far as price of parts go just do me a favor, a Chevy 572 big block has some of the BIGGEST connecting rods and pistons out there.....just compare them side by side to a rod and piston from a Cummins, the diesel stuff is bigger and much stronger than the gasser stuff, hince bigger and better COST MORE. Im sorry about this rant im on but please dont complain if you got yourself into something before knowing enough about what you were getting yourself into and then finding out OMG this gets crazy. I was younger than you (20) when i DETONATED my engine in my 1968 Corvette, talk about a kick to the gut on cost of playing around too much. It was at that point in time that i decided to learn more about my hobby so i never did that again (which I havent) and found out along the way that hey im good at this and can make a living doing this too. But anyway i have one simple and BLUNT statement to make about all of this and that is : IF YOU CANT RUN AND PLAY WITH THE BIG DOGS THEN KEEP YOUR TAIL END ON THE PORCH. Yeah I know its mean but there it is and im really sorry if I offended anyone out there.

 

I know that I make payments on mine and it gets an average of 500 miles a month now, maybe even less since I got my Jeep daily driver. I will not get rid of it for anything, it is great knowing that I can go out and fire her up hook to anything and go, no need to have to borrow someone's truck to haul something. The mileage does not bother me at all, it is a 8000lb truck, what more could you expect. My dad has a 2500 HD GMC gas and he wishes that he had went diesel. I get better mileage when towing and around town, enough that it makes up the cost for the diesel instead of gas. True the payments are higher because the diesel is more but I do not care, it will be worth more than his with the same mileage if either of us ever get rid of them. I know that my situation is some what different than yours but when I wrecked her all I wanted was to have her back, never thought that I had become so attached to her, but I had.

 

I can't imagine ever wanting to get rid of this drivetrain. I wouldn't mind having it in an older, sturdier and crew cab truck, but I just LOVE this engine. I can't imagine ever trading back to a gasser. I would even go for a 6.9 navistar/ford before going to a gas truck again. I went from 8-9mpg to 15-18 mpg as soon as I got this truck. Since I did a lot of driving and towing in the first couple of years I had it, I actually got back my money pretty quick in fuel savings.

Hopefully by the end of the month, I will have my diesel VW going too and I will have a 40-50 mpg daily driver.

But I can imagine that like anything, diesel is not for everyone.

 

Well - there's a lot of good discussion on this. And the fact is, it's a matter of each individual's needs, ambitions, and intrests that really matter in this. Someone indicated that outside of oil changes, maintance is essentially the same cost on these truck as a gas unit. I would, for one, like to see some data that reflects this statement. After spending $129/each for front brake rotors from carquest, it started to dawn on me that the sheer size & weight of this rig really does add up to larger costs of ownership, hence my singnature's tagline. Then again, I understood that when I purchased the truck in 2001.

For me, while I enjoy driving this truck and will likely keep it around for some time to come, as it's paid for and all the expensive brake, suspension & cooling system work has been done to it. However I enjoy driving, on a daily basis, a really good-handling car that is responsive, fuel efficient, safe, and reasonalbly practical. I wont drive something like a Prius, but my current Accord and an eventual 6-cylinder German car tends to be much more comfortable and practical for everyday commuting. The truck dosen't see a lot of miles these days, and that's okay. But I'm not going to critisize someone for wanting out of thiers if it no longer meets thier needs.