Thinking about buying a Diesel Jeep Liberty
#16
My best freind bought one new and loved it. After they flashed it for the detune to help the TQ last longer it went down hill fast. After that the tranie started shifting dumb and when you would accelerate at light throtle when it went from 2nd to 3rd it felt like you where hitting a brick wall. The entire thing would jerk and bang and then accelerate again. He took it in several times to have it fixed just to get told there was nothing wrong. They did put a new TQ in it on a recal and that made the isues worse yet. He was convinsed the tranie would not live long past the warenty perioud so he took a $6K hit to part ways with it. He was also ****** that the original flash robbed him of somuch power. He loved it the way it came new but every time he would take it in complaining abought a problem he would get it back with anouther problem or teh original one was worse yet. Before all the flashes and BS he was getting high 20s for milage and when he got rid of it it was down to 23-26 at best. He used it to pull his 2 ATVs to the local pits to ride and new it would hold OD up a hill that after the detune flash it would barely hold speed no matter what gear it down shifted to.
#17
Good to knonw this stuff. I'm putting a programmer on it so I'm not worried about the flash.
I'm planning on a programmer, converter (they are only like $650) and a transgo. Also plan to block off the EGR and I think I figured out the way to do it.
I'm not worried about the transmission, it's the 545RFE and I hammered one of those behind a Hemi and it held up. I beleive it's even used in the 2500 Hemi trucks.
I'm planning on a programmer, converter (they are only like $650) and a transgo. Also plan to block off the EGR and I think I figured out the way to do it.
I'm not worried about the transmission, it's the 545RFE and I hammered one of those behind a Hemi and it held up. I beleive it's even used in the 2500 Hemi trucks.
#18
It's too bad, really, that the product marketing people got a hold of the CRD liberty and changed what it was originally intened to be and made the actual product so much more limited. Did you know, that the Liberty CRD was supposed to offer with both the 5-speed and auto trannies? It was also supposed to be on both 2wd and Awd models, as well as all trim levels. It seems the really cut it's wings before takeoff - and less than impressive sales were the result.
#19
Well it was a cool vehicle but not worth taking a day off and driving from Houston to Dallas.
The "guaranteed mechanically sound" with "new tires" on it actually turned out to have almost no oil in the engine (although it ran fine) and "used tire" which he said "yeah they are new, new to me".
I was able to look over the stained up rear seat (3 kids) and ripped up skid plate/tow holes. Those are easy fixes but if the engine blows I won't be able to find a motor in a junkyard easily or a mechanic to fix it.
I was really disappointed and took the guy's father who was showing it to me to a shop and got them to fill it up with the proper oil... Just as a good deed since the owner isn't around.
I was kinda annoyed that he wouldn't meet me and was "too busy" on sunday so I had to take off today.
The "guaranteed mechanically sound" with "new tires" on it actually turned out to have almost no oil in the engine (although it ran fine) and "used tire" which he said "yeah they are new, new to me".
I was able to look over the stained up rear seat (3 kids) and ripped up skid plate/tow holes. Those are easy fixes but if the engine blows I won't be able to find a motor in a junkyard easily or a mechanic to fix it.
I was really disappointed and took the guy's father who was showing it to me to a shop and got them to fill it up with the proper oil... Just as a good deed since the owner isn't around.
I was kinda annoyed that he wouldn't meet me and was "too busy" on sunday so I had to take off today.
#20
Oh and he said the tow holes in the skid plate were torn (and when I say torn I mean torn all the way through so they are useless now) because he "ran out of gas and had to pull it to a gas station".
I asked him 3 times . We did this over the phone and couldn't believe he lied to me. How can you just run a diesel up to the gas station and just refill it without taking it to a mechanic!!
Freaking some people!
I asked him 3 times . We did this over the phone and couldn't believe he lied to me. How can you just run a diesel up to the gas station and just refill it without taking it to a mechanic!!
Freaking some people!
#21
to bad ya found a used up one like that. We bought ours new in 05, and other than the recall stuff it hasnt given any trouble at all, and has around 50k on it now. The thing does great in all the weather conditions we have in colorado, never had a problem starting in the cold. Will run over 100 (dont ask) Has serious *****, both off the line, and at speed. We did have to replace the boost hoses this year, they both blew out within a month or two of each other, other than that, its been a great little rig for the wife, told her if it gets wrecked Im swiping the crd to put in my scout rock buggy..
#22
It definately has some umph. Never drove a vehicle like it.
Power came without any turbo lag. Kinda weird since I'm use to the lag in my Cummins. I can see why they have torque converter problems.
Sad thing was this one only had 42K miles on it. Must have been abused.
Power came without any turbo lag. Kinda weird since I'm use to the lag in my Cummins. I can see why they have torque converter problems.
Sad thing was this one only had 42K miles on it. Must have been abused.
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