Well, let's see how it does in the marketplace. If the 6.4L engine is a dud, none of the rest matters. If, on the other hand, it isn't, then......

Rusty

 

Regardless of the changes, what is the 450 going to cost? Bet it tops 70-80K with a few bells and whistles. Not a lot of folks can afford that.

 

Nothing else will matter after warranty other than the fact that you will have to call a plumber before you open the hood to service the engine.....There is an engine block under there somewhere.............right?

 

I don't care much about official weight ratings. I had a 94 chevy 2500 454 truck that officially could pull 10K but if you actually put that much weight behind it, the truck turned into a total turd.

 

I've just got to have one of those, they get such great fuel milage.

 

Boy that's fugly.....

MikeyB

 

That truck is indeed 12-pack good... looks good after you've had a 12-pack.

Ford copied the Dodge retro front end long ago... and they did a poor job of it.

 

Depends on how well you can hold your own, it would take more than a 12 pack to make me even "start" to like it. Must be that top secret merger between GM/Ford... cross breading Dura Max's with Fords and what do you get? Bad Ford, BAD!!!

 

If your going to be towing/hauling that much, you might as well buy an International CXT or something along those lines...

 

So is the 6.4 actually a twin turbo, or is it still a single? not that it matters, im just curious. 2 will be twice the trouble.

Eric

 

An International CXT could never tow a 5th wheel RV. The bed rails are far too tall. It might be an interesting toy, but it's not a tow rig. It'll be interesting to see how the F-450's price compares to a Freightliner FL-60 or FL-70 or a Peterbilt 335 crew cab rigged up for RV towing.

Rusty

 

What happened to the headlights

 

Boys, you all fell way behind in the towing specs now......


http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forum...7&d=1159464063

 

Well these big trucks have alot to do with where you are going. For example a F650 or International are great if you are cruising to the equestrian park or you are migrating for the winter, but if you are headed to the mountains try gettin one of those up to some of the places I go, you can't. And most of them don't have 4 wheel drive that is a 20k conversion. So you can get a F450 or 550 I actually had a F550 on order when I purchased my Dodge, Ya they pull like a dump truck but then you have those gears in them that run at 2800 rpm's at 65 try that milage out. Now if you want to be optimistic about it drop a Dana 80 into your Dodge and leave those 3.73's in there.

 

If this thing runs right, well then there is no question that Ford set the new bar alot higher than the competition was even thinking....

http://www.thedieselgarage.com/forum...3&d=1159453658