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Old 06-23-2004, 12:28 PM
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No more cummins in dodge?

My dad was in calif at top 10 truck challenge and this diesel goo roo that worked for cummins said in a couple yrs they are replacing cummins with mercedes has any one else heard any thing like this?
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Dodge is already using a Benz diesel in the Sprinter, but their contract with CUmmins for the Rams is good until at least 2007, with a possibility of it being extended beyond that. Mercedes Benz is owned by Daimler Chrysler, so when CUmmins no longer supplies the powerplant for Rams, it would an obvious choice. As far as I know though, nothing has gotten past specualtion.
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good info
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some of the confussion could be since Dodge is currently testing the mercedes manual transmission. but I haven't heard anything about the engine.
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thanks dfd
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2007 will be the earliest but may have a option for the benz before that
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how about a benz diesel in the 1500 series trucks?? The other manufacturers are looking at 1/2 ton diesels, so why not dodge??
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Dodge and Cummins have been working on a V-8 Cummins for the 1500 and a V-6 Cummins for the Dakota/Durango...
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I can't imagine why they would, if the D-C/Cummins relationship ended, I suspect that Ford would drop Navistar like a bad habit. Dodge's ability to compete with Ford (in my humble opinion) is due LARGELY to the Cummins engine that they offer. If Dodge swapped the Cummins for a MB diesel, and Ford picked up the Cummins........

I'm sure that there are some hardcore Dodge loyalists out there, but if that were to happen Ford would be untouchable.
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whoohoo.....Dont get me wrong I love my Cummins (just wished I could still buy a 12V).....at least there would be no more fuel delivery problems....I better start saving.....
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Mercedes

We've got the Mercedes engines in our new fleet. Freightliner FL80's with Mercedes OM-906 inline 6. So far easy to maintain, but I find a severe lack of power compaired to even the previous fleet of Cat's 3126. There's no GET-UP-AND-GO even after the turbo spools. I haven't checked the print out specs yet to see if they have the same gear ratio's which would make a difference.
An YES, I realize I'm talkin' a different class of truck but if these engines are any indication of what to expect in a 1500-3500 series engine, I don't think I'ld want it.
Oil and fuel filters are very easy to change. Check out the open- hood picture in this url and you can see the filter housings.
http://www.mrtruck.net/freightliner.htm


P.S. While I was internet searchin' I came across this site about Mercedes diesels and BIO-FUELS. I know there's a post here somewhere about BIO-FUELS.
http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_UScars.html
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fords locked in to international till 2012 so they cant exactly drop it
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Originally posted by wgingg
fords locked in to international till 2012 so they cant exactly drop it
Money talks... and Ford has enough of it... I'm sure they could get out of anything if they really wanted too...
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Ford put the hurt on Firestone. They may not have many alternatives at the moment, but when one arrizes, they may be able to coerce or even ignore Navistar.
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Originally posted by drafalske
Dodge is already using a Benz diesel in the Sprinter,
And the reason is that its a Benz van; not exactly a Dodge product. The rumor of a MB engine in a Ram comes around ever now and then. Truth is that there is no substantive info the leads folks to this conclusion, other than who the parent company is.


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