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Old 01-12-2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bkrukow
Watch this.
http://www.plug2work.com/angellabsllc/d/mytani.html

It may make you more confused though but it does anser your question. My problem is it raises more questions than it ansers. Like how do the pistons travel at diferent speeds??? That would require 2 crank shafts or out put shafts or what ever they call them on that.


Doesnt work for e....I have my browser settings pretty tight to block out junk...Guess alot of that site gets blocked...I dont see much....
Old 02-08-2006 | 05:48 PM
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Here are some technical answers

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1. What are the main possible fluid leakage points for oil, fuel, and air paths in the MYT (Engine) and how are you preventing them?

Using off the shelf techniques proven to be mass producible in the current Engine designs.

Piston and Cylinder: Sealing achieved by a set of any round piston rings on a round cylinder core.

Between the two discs: Sealing achieved by a set of round rings.

Cover/Outer joints: Sealing is achieved by more than 1.5 inch wide flat Aluminum surfaces bolted with 16 bolts torque @ 45 ft. lbs. each.

Anything round can be sealed with a ring, it's an Engineering fact.
2. Is there any heat problem since there's a claim of a lot of pressure, heat and a lot of pulses? (Equivalent to 32 cylinders)

The cylinder exposure to combustion cycle is a function of the cycle. In this case only 90 degrees in the MYT Engine compared to 180 degrees in a conventional Engine. In addition, the Engine is built to cool with air outside and inside, while further cooling is achieved by oil and fuel circulating throughout entire system including the pistons. An in-line oil-cooling radiator is hooked up to the dry sump system if necessary.
3. Can current materials withstand the tremendous mechanical stress generated since it's so compact?

Answer => We do not foresee any material issues, but the goal of the Engine is to push to the limit of available material strength, even though the first generation models are built with enough thickness and sizes. The material used in the Engine (Vacuum melt aircraft high alloy Steel), can withstand over 300,000 psi of tensile stress when heat-treated. Further efforts will be made to make the Engine even more compact.
4. What's the explanation of your clean environment claims?

The compression dwell at TDC (Top Dead Center) is a full 12 degrees of rotation time compared to less than one tenth that for a conventional Engine. Complete burning is expected to further reduce Carbon Monoxide, Hydrocarbon and NOX and other gases. The fuel will be incinerated and thoroughly consumed and turned into better pressures (thermal efficiency) during the lengthened dwell, virtually eliminating any unburned fuel to exhaust at any speed.
5. How much testing have you performed on the Engine with fuel? And what's the result?

Diesel like bio fuel to run the initial Engine test of short runs for about six months for verification purposes.

To preserve working models Angel Labs subsequently adopted air motoring to run Dynamometer instead of fuel ignition so that we can gain test data of Engine horsepower and torque without destructing the Engine.

With an impressive development already attained with the initial development and 814 lb.ft. of torque at low rpm of data acquired, we are now ready to run the Engine with fuel with the next round of funding.
6. How can you achieve a compression ratio of over 60?

The technology does not need valves. This means that pistons can reach close proximity during the compression. The size of the combustion chamber can be any size resulting in compression ratio of up to and over 60 to 1.
7. What are the advantages and significance of using the bio fuel?

We are planning to use the Bio Fuel not only as a fuel but also as a lubricant, due to high lubricity of the bio fuel. This means that every tank full of fuel, Engine is circulated with more than 20 gallons of fresh Engine oil compared to 5 quarts of Engine oil circulating over 3,000 miles. The bio fuel is expected to be a renewable energy source qualifying this project for several tax credits. No more oil change and longer Engine life.
8. What's the significance of the air motoring test?

When Engine blows up it's hard to isolate the real cause of failure due to multiple number of parts broken.

We have achieved 814 ft. lbs. of torques from 150 psi of compressed air.

Projection: Ambient air pressure is about 14.7 psi, the pressure before the ignition will rise to about 290 psi when compressed to 20 to 1. The combustion process will boost the pressure to over 1,500 psi as a result of the chemical reaction of the firing. Extrapolation based on the mechanical advantage shows that the Engine will exert over 4,000 ft. lbs. of torque
9. Can the Engine run upside down?

Yes. The Engine uses dry sump lubrication system for oil circulation, making it possible to operate in any positions.
10. How do you inject the fuel?

We are planning to use both a current and more advanced proprietary fuel injector, invented by Raphial. We believe the advanced injector is a cost effective design and that this new fuel injector will eliminate pre-ignition, detonation and knock events, responsible for the annoying marble sound inherent to Diesel Engines.
11. How can you get rid of the transmission when you use the MYT Engine in a car?

The current standard Engine and its transmission is necessary since most internal combustion Engine cannot generate enough torque at low rpm. So at low speed, instead of turning the Engine at low rpm, it has to turn at high rpm to move the vehicle therefore, needs a transmission to gear down. The MYT Engine, due to 16 firings in one revolution, generates enough torque to move the vehicle at any low rpm, and as a result, a transmission is not required in a vehicle powered by the Engine. We anticipate a system capable of high, and low speed, and reverse will be provided instead of a standard transmission and a rear end.
12. How did you decide on an 850 cubic inch displacement for the first model?

Raphial, the inventor, wants to help big rig truck drivers who were hit hard economically due to high oil prices. It turns out that 850 CID Engine will power most private airplanes, helicopters, an M-1 tank, as well as 18 wheelers. It will generate more than 4 Mega Watts for remote power generation application.
13. What are the differences between the MYT Engine and the Wankel (Rotary) Engine?

The MYT Engine fires 16 times in one revolution vs. single rotor Wankel's 1.5 firings. The MYT Engine is a positive displacement Engine without sealing problems because the MYT Engine uses round piston and round cylinder same as conventional Engines. The MYT Engine does not have to rotate at very high rpm to achieve torque. The Wankel Rotary Engine's pistons and cylinders are of tri-angular and squarish on the corners design. Furthermore, the piston assembly turns away from the center line of the shaft. The MYT Engine design leads to an enormous displacement leading to 850 CID at 150 lbs. The Rotary Engine with 200lbs is only 80 CID.
14. What's the main advantage of the Engine as a gas or liquid pump?

Currently, no single pump can exhibit high volume, high flow, and high pressure in one unit.

For the pressure, reciprocating piston type pump is preferred, which lacks in volume and flow.

For volume and flow, centrifugal pump is preferred which then lacks pressure.

To achieve all, many stages of centrifugal pumps are used which is very heavy and costly to operate.

The MYT Pump can match pumps of 10 times in size and weight and reduces the operating cost by a factor of 5.
15. Is there any sealing problem, especially when it is in different sizes?

No. Sealing is achieved by round piston rings in a round cylinder, which has been proven for the past 100 years of Engineering. Sealing between the rotating discs is achieved by circular rings.
16. Is the Engine mechanically sound?

Absolutely yes. The Engine has only 15 major parts compared to hundreds of parts for a standard Engine. This lower number of parts means less chance of breakdown. Note that all the parts of the Engine are the proven components of 100 years of Engineering. The Engine is just configured and packaged in a very efficient and smart way.
17. Is the Engine at 14" dia by 14" long, really 850 cubic inches of displacement

Yes. A displacement is pi*bore*bore*stroke*firings/4. The Engine's bore=3 inches, stroke = 3.75 inches, and 32 firings in two complete revolutions. The calculations results in 848 cubic inches of displacement.
Old 02-08-2006 | 06:32 PM
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A new industrial era can be spawned by the MYT™Engine
And here is the scenario:

1. The Mighty Pumps can pump the sea water for desalination
2. The Mighty Pumps can pump the water thru pipeline to Deserts And turn the Deserts into Farm lands to grow Palm Trees, Coconuts, Soybeans, etc.
3. Bio Fuel extracted from Palms, Coconuts, Soybeans, etc. can fuel the Mighty Engine, hooked up to a generator to generate electricity
4. Automobiles with the Mighty Engine can run on Bio Fuel
5. Industry can be powered by the Mighty Engine using Bio Fuel with better fuel economy and less pollution
6. Radical new designs of Automobiles, Ships, and Airplanes are imminent with the Mighty Engine running Bio Fuel
7. Earth gets less polluted, while industry runs with renewable Bio Fuel which never runs out
8. Farm Lands on Earth can now grow our own fuel. We won’t be at the mercy of foreign oil suppliers any more.

Powered by the MYT™ Engine !!! Comparative Chart
....................................... The MYT™ Engine........................ Conventional Engine
Power to Weight Ratio.......... 20:1(3,000hp/150lbs)................................. 1:1(350hp/350lbs)
Parts Count.................................... 50..................................... 3,000
manufacturing cost............. very low (less parts to manufacture)........ high
#pulses (equivalent cylinders)......... 32=>high torque @ low rpm.......... 8=>low torque @ low rpm
Fuel for efficient operation........... fossil, and renewable (bio fuel)................ mostly only fossil
Maintenance........................... very low....................................... high
as a Pump (liquid, gas)............... high flow rate, high volume............. low flow rate, low volume
Mechanical Efficiency (stress)......... high (low) due to no reciprocation......... low (high) due to reciprocation
Fuel Efficiency....................... very high(less friction, etc.)...................... low
size................................... 14 inch dia x14inches long.................... 5ft x 4ft x 2ft
pollution............................. very low (more complete combustion)................... high[/table]
Old 02-08-2006 | 09:04 PM
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Hey Targetrighton... Are you Morgado?
Old 02-08-2006 | 09:31 PM
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wcbcruzer, No I am not Morgado, but I am one who has done an enormous amount of research on the invention because I hold securities in a company that will be mining a deposit of metals (Rare Earth Elements) which are used in the manufacture of special steel alloys that are used in these engines that can withstand the intense heat and pressure produced by this MYT engine.
Old 02-08-2006 | 09:48 PM
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View the entire patent and get all details on how the engine works. Very simple concept. Maximun 50 running parts.

http://www.plug2work.com/angellabsllc/pdf/6739307.PDF
Old 02-08-2006 | 10:17 PM
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Well if this thing does, down the road, prove it's self to the world and everyone loves the idea about it. This would be along the same lines of how Bill Gates got rich. I've been waiting for somebody to come around with an idea like this that could change the way Detroit things about what kind of engine to run in their everyday passenger vehicles. either that or somebody makes an engine that runs on water or wheat, something to that effect. I'll invest in it when I see it for real. That would be one killer fuel pump.
Old 02-08-2006 | 10:44 PM
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Hey so have they gotten any company to buy the design yet? How many more years of research and development do you think it will take before we may actually see one of these things on the market?
Old 02-08-2006 | 11:31 PM
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What does it sound like strait piped??
Old 02-09-2006 | 03:52 AM
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I want one for my lawnmower! No more boggin down in the tall grass.
Old 02-09-2006 | 07:53 AM
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Smart engine. Each power stroke not only pushes the exhaust fumes out of the next cylinder, but pulls air in on the opposite side. 8 combustion chambers on each of the two rotors firing twice per rev- thats why the displacement is so high for a tiny engine. So there's 4 cylinders firing every powerstroke. It doubles as a pump too. They like running biodiesel too due to its lubricity and a few extra tax $$'s Another observation- they also mention that rpms stay low due to the design. The site mentions plans of building without a trasmission due to the amount of low end torque. High, low, and reverse is all thats needed. Very smart design and very innovative. I hope this one takes off.
Old 02-09-2006 | 08:20 AM
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Has anyone invested in them yet? They sent me a brochure a few months ago about buying stock.
Old 02-09-2006 | 08:40 AM
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I like the concept; but it sounds too good to be true.

Cold fusion anyone???
Old 02-09-2006 | 08:57 AM
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Angel Labs LLC is not a public trading company and are not listed on any stock exchange and securities are not sold at this time, however that is not to say that they may become a public company sometime in the future. Their main source of revenue at this time is through private investors and the sale of non-exclusive licensing agreements to use their application by interested parties. Some licensing agreements are being negotiated.
Old 02-09-2006 | 09:11 AM
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Applications Of The Myt Engine

The MYT Engine excels as a pump (pressure, volume, and flow, all in one unit.). To work as a pump/air motor/steam expander, we need to draw 4 more ports, so in total, there are 4 intake ports, and 4 exhaust ports.
Air, Liquid, will come in thru intake, and just shoot out thru exhaust ports, with whatever speed you turn the main shaft. Or the pump can work as air motor, air/liquid expander. And as our test data on air motoring shows, it generates enormous torque, because it harnesses the incoming energy virtually without loss.
And the beauty is that in the back2back model, it can work as an
engine-engine, engine-pump, exapander-expander, expander-pump, etc., without having to have electric motor.

So the MYT Engine/pump can be very useful in mines, and to send
air/liquids thru pipelines. The long term benefit would be in Geothermal electricity generation, because that is like a perpetual energy harnessing.”


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