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Old 10-30-2007 | 09:23 PM
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massive engine little power
Old 10-31-2007 | 07:37 AM
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seems appropriate given all the new emission crap. our cummins went from a 5.9 to a 6.7 with marginal gains in power.

look at the Cat 7.2 I6

http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85520&x=7
Old 10-31-2007 | 08:30 AM
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Maybe they aren't going for top power? I know I'll get shot for saying this on here, but our trucks have had plenty of power for years if you use them for what they're designed to be used for.

An engine of that size only putting out a mere fraction of what it can do is surely going to last forever and will probably get excellent fuel mileage to boot! I say bring it on! Any competition is good competition!
Old 10-31-2007 | 09:42 AM
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a Toyota diesel of that size......ill believe it when i see them on the lot.

the way the automakers are going i wouldnt get my hopes up.
But Toyota is one of the few MAKING money.
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:23 AM
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Hey look they already have a BHAF!
Hehe, I thought the same thing
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:24 AM
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read the article, it actually appears to be a last minute hack job for SEMA.

didn't realize it at first but the production truck won't have that drivetrain.
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:33 AM
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But Toyota is one of the few MAKING money.
That they are. This truck won't happen. Ford will make a truck for toyota when Ford is the largest division of Toyota Motor Co. Jk...kinda. Only 600ft-lbs out of an 8.0L inline 6? That seems awfully low, the C7 Cat, which is .8L smaller can make over 800ft-lbs. The DT466, which is 7.6L, also can make over 800ft-lbs. The 8.3L Cummins ISC can make any were from 660 all the way up to 1200 ft-lbs! So I were dodge if Toyota comes out with that truck, dodge should drop a ISC in the ram.....oh wouldn't that be nice.
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GhettoVaquero
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seems appropriate given all the new emission crap. our cummins went from a 5.9 to a 6.7 with marginal gains in power.

look at the Cat 7.2 I6

http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85520&x=7
Quote from link:
Laboratory tests and engine disassembly analyses indicate that the Cat C7 engine has a B50 life of 450,000 to 500,000 miles.
They don't talk to Cummins owners very often, do they, because I don't find this number outlandishly impressive.
Old 10-31-2007 | 11:52 AM
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Just think of what it would cost.

I new tundra loaded is what right at 40k, maybe a lil more. Now add a diesel, whatever auto trans they come up with, then a little more for a dually.

I fully loaded truck is gonna passed 65k, that will be more than what a ford cost.

So far the highest priced ford I've seen at our dealership was 63k and that was a 450 with alum. 19.5s.

The highest priced dodge I've seen at pur dealship was I 57k. Thats as mega cab drw, loaded with everything you can get, 6 speed auto with the up shift buttons, leather, tv and I mean everything.

I've never looked at the yoda dealership to see what they are but I was told a decked out one was 45k, thats 4x4, loaded with there mega cab version thing.
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:14 PM
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Tundra DIESEL DUALLY

Picture from Sema 07.

I just saw it on an offshore boating forum.





With a strong OEM presence at SEMA, automakers are forced to bring The Badass to the masses. Toyota has apparently been overrun with requests from customers for some form of diesel motivation in its Tundra pickup and the automaker has responded... sort of... with the Tundra Dually Diesel. Toyota utilized two Tundra CrewMax pickups that were joined at the hip to lengthen the frame and add an additional foot to the bed. Although the majority of the Tundra Dually Diesel is bespoke show material, the drivetrain has been pulled straight from a Hino medium duty truck, with the only exception being a custom split driveshaft.

The crown jewel of the Dually is a JO8E 8.0-liter inline six turbodiesel, making around 300 HP and 600 lb.-ft. of torque. Shoehorning that kind of mill into the tight confines of the Tundra proved to be a challenge. The body had to be lifted off the frame by three inches and after some hacking and chopping of the firewall, they were finally able to fit the 1,500 pound engine into the bay. Between fitting the oil burner into the snout and mating it to a five-speed Allison tranny, the interior accoutrements have suffered – the HVAC controls are nonfunctional and the massive stick is there to provide additional leverage when shifting gears.

Mike Levine has a great write up covering all the details of the Tundra Dually Diesel, which is worth a read. And even though this *****' runs, don't expect a production version to make it to dealers any time soon.

We've added Toyota's press release after the jump.


Gallery: Toyota Tundra Diesel Dually Project Vehicle




PRESS RELEASE

Toyota Tundra Diesel Dually Project Truck
"Road Warrior" exterior combined with luxury Interior
10/30/2007

Making a bold and adventurous statement about the contrasts between rugged "Road Warrior" performance and opulent luxury, a Toyota Tundra CrewMax diesel dually project truck made its debut at the 2007 SEMA Show.

At its core, the Tundra light duty pickup's stock engine was replaced with a medium duty diesel powerplant plucked from a 35,000-pound commercial truck. The 8.0-liter inline six-cylinder high-torque engine, made by Toyota affiliate Hino, is mated with an Eaton five-speed manual transmission and a Hino back end. Toyota Motorsports Technical Group heavily modified the Tundra to accommodate the beefed-up driveline.

A host of custom exterior treatments point to the off-the-charts muscle under the hood. Prominent examples include forged aluminum alloy 22.5-inch wheels custom made by Alcoa, a diamond plate-lined bed, a charcoal gray metallic flat paint finish and a fifth-wheel hitch rated at 24,000 pounds.

The muscular theme on the outside shifts dramatically to that of luxury on the inside with hand-sewn ginger leather seats, suede pillars and headliner and dual rear captain's chairs with individual DVD entertainment systems.

PARTNERS:

Engineering by Motorsports Technical Group
Interior by Fast Ed's Interiors
Paint by Focus on Cars
Wheels by Alcoa
Power steps and fuel door by Amp Research
Sound system by Kenwood
Sound installation by Beach Auto Sound
Lighting by PIAA
Exhaust by Magnaflow
5th wheel hitch by Reese


TOYOTA TUNDRA DIESEL DUALLY PROJECT TRUCK SPECIFICATIONS

SEMA CONCEPTS
CAB TYPE CrewMax, 6'5" Bed on lengthened frame
ENGINE Hino JO8E-TB Medium Duty 6 cylinder Turbo Diesel (intended for 35K lb truck)
DRIVETRAIN Eaton 5 speed manual transmission (medium duty application)
Hino Medium Duty rear end with Meritor Axles
Alcoa 22.5X9 Dually rear wheels and Floatation wheel fronts

EXTERIOR (Focus on Cars, Toyota Motorsports Technical Group)
Color Matte Charcoal Metallic
Trim (Theme) Satin Brushed Nickel
Grille Surround Brushed Metal
Bed Raw diamond plate lined
Wheels 22.5" Alcoa 10 hand hole forged alloy wheels
Tires Michelin Energy 295/60/22.5
Suspension Custom dual front struts with Bilstein dampers, Deaver spring pack in rear
Fascia Restyled front bumper insert
Diamond Plate Rear Bumper
Lighting PIAA P4000 Quattro cab lights, LED clearance lights on side and rear

INTERIOR (Fast Ed's Interiors)
Color Ginger soft touch leather with french stitching and perforated inserts
Dash Brished satin aluminum dash panel
Shift **** Ginger leather wrap
Steering Wheel Ginger leather wrap
Seats Rear bench seat converted to two power captain's chairs and console
Headliner Taupe ultrasuede
***** Satin Brushed Nickel HVAC *****
Door panels Fully leather wrapped in Ginger with french stitching and perforated inserts
Door Handles Satin Brushed Nickel
Door Sills Satin Brushed Nickel
Sound System Kenwood touch panel with full Kenwood sound system
Features Navigation, dual rear seat entertainment

EXTRAS
Reese Signature Series 24K hitch
AMP Research electrically retractable step boards
AMP research billet fuel filler door
Magnaflow 4.5" Polished stainless steel exhaust
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:16 PM
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Initial thoughts, rear fenders are funky, that shot from the rear makes it look real stout though.

8.0 Liter INLINE six! Sounds interesting......
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:21 PM
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It'll be interesting to see if it actually does hit the market.
Given toytas great history of good, reliable vehicles it might give some of the Big-3 a run for their money ::cough-ford-cough::
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:26 PM
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the Bed and rear fenders throw the whole thing off....If it had a flatbed I think i'd like it alot. Engine and trans sound like a decent package though.
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:32 PM
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Don't like it. It's just trying to hard to be a dually.

In the words of Jeremy Clarkson: "For something to live with everyday, I would rather have bird flu."
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:45 PM
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Interesting


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