After buying and dealing w/ NEW HOLAND I WOULDN'T Recomend !
ramguy

 

The horse power ratings the fellas gave you regarding Yanmar tractors for JD are mostly correct. The Grey markat tractors they are talking about are imports companys are importing as used tractors with a 4-digit model number. These are the Japanese models and in some aspects don't meet American model safety requirements. These model come in grey, greem amd red colors. The American models came in red and green and carry a 3-digit model designation along with a D for 4 wheel drive. Mine is a 1989 model and has around 2400 hrs. on it and runs very well. I have nearly every implement for it between myself and other friends that have the Yanmar-JD tractors. The JD's are more refined than the Yanmars in the controls department but otherwise run the same. Mike

 

I have 8 acres to keep up with(bush hogging) and long gravel drive ways to keep dressed. Many years ago, I bought a JD750, 4 wheel drive, with a 5' box blade, and a 5' bush hog.(all JD)
I have not had a minutes trouble with any of them. This tractor has the Yanmar 21HP diesel engine and it runs good.

 

I have owned a grey market Yanmar 280FX, 3 cylinder diesel, 4wd with loader and backhoe. I bought the tractor with 800 hrs. on it from a dealer in the Idaho panhandle. The tractor was a an excellent machine, but the dealer and the loader attachment were crap! I welded rollover protection on to it and picked up a couple of additional attachments. I put about 150 hours on it and went back to a Bobcat for my place. The Yanmar performed flawlessly. Tractors, in my opinion, just don't measure up against a skidsteer. And yes, the small JD's are built by Yanmar. Yanmar is best known for their marine diesels. I have also owned a Yanmar mini-excavator and it too performed like a champ. You can get a lot of info off the internet on the Yanmars.

 

i bought a new 4510 w/loader back in march this year. through very extensive investigations on jd prior to my purchase i found the 790 990 etc are 100% japanese/yanmar. however the 4010 series is an hybrid/american made tractor they are assembled in augusta ga, with alot of american parts/components. as far as the engine is is manufactured by yanmar but is designed by jd and i heard it is a different engine than the 790/990 due to the fact they are relabeled yanmar tractors and painted green. the 4010 series is an excellent tractor around my 5 acres but you gotta get off that wallet to take one home. fyi i am finished with mine if anyone is looking for one only 28 hours on it, r4 tires, steel fabricated roof, heavy duty bucket on a 460 loader. $20k

 

regardless of who makes it ,yanmar or deere ,or case or newholland or an agco conglomerate,the extra 4-500 you pay up front will more than be repaid when you go to sell or trade....

 

firestorm if you are looking at a older tractor be careful does it have live PTO and enough hydraulics for a loader mite be real slow and power steering. I see guys buying older tractors cuse of the price but these are in NO whey as nice to operate as the newer compacts.good luck in your tractor buying

 

I just bought a New Holland TC29DA four wheel drive with loader and I love it! The hydraulics are so powerful and easy to use. I second what msing said about the hydraulics. The NH loader (in my opinion) is the best with the curved low profile arms and lots of power. Also, the New Hollands have a very nice cockpit with fully adjustable seat and steering wheel. In the smaller tractors (20 to 30 hp) be careful if you plan to get a loader because some of the front ends are much lighter duty. Even Kubota has upgraded and recommends against installing loaders on some models. There is a big difference in tractor frame designs too. Some are very light and some are cast iron, heavy, and ready for abuse. If you just want to disc or mow it doesn't matter but if you want to use a loader or get a backhoe I think the stronger the better. Some models are also much easier to service. It may not seem like a big deal but checking the fluids every day and doing a little maintenance often, can be a pain if it is hard to do. One model I looked at was almost impossible to get the dipstick out of, and when you did, you were likely to scrape your fingers, and dirt fell into the hole, guaranteed. Sheesh.
Then the decision will be hydro or gear tranny. And on and on.
Have fun!

Wetspirit

 

I chose to invest my money in an older domestic tractor and fix 'er up. I'm glad I did. My old 1954 Ford 640 has lots of life left in her and it's a REAL tractor.

 

I bought an '89 model, Ford 4500 industrial tractor, live PTO, already equipt with a loader just before we went on vacation. When I was looking at buying it, I found the clutch was bad, so I convinced the shop to put in a new clutch at 1/2 the normal price. I walked out of there with the tractor, 6' box blade (new), and 6' Bush Hog for $9,000. The only thing I need to do is a valve cover gasket, the bucket raise/ lower detent, and a paint job. Other than that, it is a strong running tractor. Come on now, I know it's the four-letter-word, but it's the only good thing they make. Thanks for all your help guys.

 

Sounds like you got a good buy. I just wanted to mention that if you want a new tractor under 50 hp then Kubota is the only way to go. Specifically the Grand 30 series tractors. Best tractor out there right now. I have looked at Deeres, NH, etc and Kubota is the best. Now if you want a 50HP+ I would steer towards a Deere!

 

Papa Perk,

It depends on personal preference. I don't think it's a good idea to say that Kubota or any other brand is aboluteley the best. The best for what? Depends on what you will be using it for.
I looked at Kubotas too, and I like them, but they are very light and some models can't handle a loader according to kubota. They are very good quality and have good engines and trannies, but the frames are not as strong and the front axles are light duty. Fine for light work and a long econimical life.
It's only the best if it matches your specific needs better than anything else.

Wetspirit

 

I have found that some times you can buy a bigger tractor just as cheap. I have a 50 hp diesel, 4x4, loader, backhoe Kubota. I bought it used and it has done a good job. Next time I buy a backhoe I will buy a 580? 4x4 case diesel backhoe.
For a tractor I bought a 4020 diesel that is in good shape. Starts and run great, steering is wonderful. I bought it for 7.5 k and I was pleased with the price. I knew the owner and he is a honest guy. It will need rear tires but the point is that it has the power to do what I wont... I am sure that if I wont to sell it I will have no problem. It is probably to big for 5 acres but would you wont to spend twice that for 30 hp diesel. I use it to plow and pull a mower. It starts when it is cold no problem. I payed cash for equiment as I had rather have a good diesel tractor than a hot rod truck. I like good eqiment, if you have to work on it evertime you wont to use a piece of equiment that gets old very quick. For me it is John Deere tractors Case BackHoe first choice. Lincoln Diesel welder, Dodge cummins truck. Cat dozers. I realy like a LULL also, there are other good choices also but that is mine. Jim

 

You may want to check out this compact tractor board for additional information

www.tractorpoint.com

they have threads by tractor type, implements etc.. and just like here you will get some great information..

Personally - I have a John Deere 790 w/ FEL 4x4... it is a great tractor for the money..

 

Thanx, I'll check out that forum. The only good thing made with the -ord name on it is their tractor. The 4500 I have now is doing everything I need it to do, and them some. Thanks guys.