I just read this and and was kinda disappointed, what do you guys think. Oh sorry if this has already been posted.

"Cummins is working on a 4.2 L V6 and 5.6 L V8 for use in Dodge trucks in the 2010 timeframe[1]. This future engine family uses an aluminum head with 4-valves per cylinder and overhead cams on a thin-wall iron block. High-tech variable-nozzle turbochargers and Piezo-electric direct injection will also be used. The V6 is specified at 190 hp (142 kW) and 455 ft·lbf (617 N·m) and will compete with Ford's 4.4 L AJD-V8, while the V8 produces 260 hp (194 kW) and 597 ft·lbf (809 N·m) and will take on the current Ford Power Stroke and GM Duramax V8s."

 

I don't know about taking on the Power Stroke and the D-max but I do remember reading that these new motors were to be offered in the Ram 1500, not the heavy duty models that we run.

 

Article is definitely stretching things... those engines are not destined for the 2500 and 3500... the new 6.7L is already 2010 emissions compliant. Those two engines are going into the Durango and Ram 1500...

 

I still wonder though why they are going to a V configuration for those. Is the 4bt that much lower in power or harder to make meet emissions? Seems that they would stick with a known quantity. . . .or maybe they just think they general public won't like a straight engine.

 

Those two engines are going into the Durango and Ram 1500


Wouldn't the top engine available in a 1500 series be available in a 2500 series as it is now?

Joe

 

I would think that it is because of engine compartment space issues.

 

Isn't the engine compartment the same size on a 2500 as it is on a 1500????

 

Yeah same body, so engine compartment should be the same..

 

These new engines are going to be much more modern than a 4BT. Lower and lighter. Trying to sell a modern pickup with a heavy 4 cylinder that barely fits under the hood vs. a modern 6 cylinder would be hard. I'm not knocking the 4BT, but that may not be the place for it. Also, the 1500 has independent suspension and, at least on the Dakotas, the differential mounts on the engine. Things could get a bit crowded in there. The V6 configuration is a bit hard to accept though. An inline 5 would be excellent but won't market like a V6, and with the V6, you can cram more displacement into a shorter engine.

If someone buys a light duty pickup they are not interested in hauling the heaviest load up the steepest grade at the highest speed. Economy and quiet are more the theme. I would trust any engine Cummins put on sale and light Diesels have been proven to be reliable. There is a market for them.

Wetspirit

 

The general public doesn't know the difference between inline, vee, and opposed cylinder configurations.

I suspect that a 4BT would not provide a pleasant driving experience for most consumers. Diesels are going to have to mimic the operating characteristics of gasoline engines for them to really catch on with the average driver. Quieter, higher revving, wider powerband. More focused on daily drivability than raw torque and towing power. Kind of like the Duramax.

 

So, dont use the 4BT....Just DONT SCREW IT UP WITH A V-ENGINE. .........

Man, I think we all need to organize a caravan to DC headquarters and demand justice...........

 

not at 260hp.... the current DMAZ is at 360.... Dodge would be laughed out of the room bringing 100 less ponies to the table.

 

Are you laughing at my S.O.?

 

No, Duramax and Powerstroke will be laughed out of the room when they hook the 260hp one to a trailer.

 

Not in a light duty pickup. We have to think beyond the HP and torque race. In a light duty setting driveability and mileage are important. A Dakota with a small diesel would be great and probably sell well. Dodge might be able to slip in the Sprinter engine. A Toyota Tacoma with a small diesel would really sell. The US is WAY behind everyone else in this area. Even in China you can buy very nice Isuzu mini vans just like the type we see running around here, with very nice little diesels. And the VW 2.0 diesel would be ideal for a small pickup. Forget about the torque race among the big three full sized trucks, that's cool but it's a different story. The econo race among small pickups might be another good race.

I won't be laughing, I'll be standing on my chair and cheering. And I'll also be wondering what took so long

Wetspirit