Its finally came to this!!
#32
I cannot understand why anyone would WANT smoke. It's waisted fuel and power, polutes the environment and serves no purpose other than highlight the fact your diesel isn't tuned properly and that most likely your just ignorant. Sure, if you have a heavily modified diesel that smokes some because of it's aggresive fueling, that is understandable but to here some on here it sounds like creating the smoke is the reason they got the mods they have.
You should be making every effort to maximize efficency and horsepower whenever possible.
You should be making every effort to maximize efficency and horsepower whenever possible.
#33
To all the guys who are set on blowing smoke, I have a favor to ask of you. Since money is not an issue, everytime you blow a cloud, send me $5.00 by way of pay-pal or email me for my address. I too, am a diesel mechanic, but to say " I WILL blow a cloud,because I can,and it is COOL." is BS. I think wearing pants that are 10 sizes too big, worn below your crotch, looks like words I can't use here. However, that will have NO effect on my daughters' health when she gets older, or any effect on my future grandchildren. Am I for laws stating how many sheets of toilet paper I can use in the bathroom, no, I am smart enough to know and do what is right. All I can hope for is everybody else will use a little common sense.
#34
Some of you guys sound like you never were a teenager...
Not every CTD is sold to someone 30+...
Guys in the 60's did burnouts.. Oh wait, my parents aren't coughing their lungs out. Hmm.
Lighten up. Seriously. Life is too short.
Not every CTD is sold to someone 30+...
Guys in the 60's did burnouts.. Oh wait, my parents aren't coughing their lungs out. Hmm.
Lighten up. Seriously. Life is too short.
#35
Smoke 'em if you got 'em!
Seriously, you guys are cracking me up... I like the fact that my truck will smoke, but I don't go around blowing smoke at every stop light. After reading this thread I think the trucks are not the only thing smoking!!!
You drive your truck like you want and I'll drive my truck how I want.
Seriously, you guys are cracking me up... I like the fact that my truck will smoke, but I don't go around blowing smoke at every stop light. After reading this thread I think the trucks are not the only thing smoking!!!
You drive your truck like you want and I'll drive my truck how I want.
#36
Ok then dang it. I will just tell some of you guys. I dont have a problem with people smoking Cigarettes. It does not bother me, and i dont really consider it as something that affects my health. But the thing is; we go to resteraunts all the time, and anywhere you go, and you see people smoking cigarettes. That means you are inhailing 2nd hand smoke. I would be willing to bet some of you who are saying that our trucks smoking is just horrible is a big cigarette smoker. Like i said, it doesent bother me, but if they can ticket our trucks for smoking, then why isnt it illegal for people to smoke cigarettes? Our trucks are means of transportation that we need, and smoking cigarettes is just an addiction. Like i said, it still doesent bother me, but its just something to consider, cause i bet cigarette smoke is harder on you than #2. Also, coming home from scheid in indiana, i got 22mpg with my "smokey" truck. And i did not drive it easy the whole time. I poured the coal to it a few times. Most of you guys also dont seem to understand that you have to have fuel to spool the turbo. My truck will only haze smoke once i spool the turbo, but before that i can black out the road. Like Eskimo said. Some of you act like you were never a teenager, and also as he said, they burnt tires a long time ago, and we are all still alive. Smoke also comes from oil, which comes fromt he ground, so it is in our enviroment one way or the other. If you are that worried about smoke buy a hybrid.
Eric
Eric
#37
Originally Posted by Andy505
Thats rediculous, I'll blow out as much black smoke as I want, I dont care what the law says! That article just makes me want to blow more smoke out. If its the enviroment they are concerned about then what about all these other fools with gas engines, no cats, high horsepower motors, think they will meet emission standards?? no. Just because you can easily see our exhaust gasses doesnt mean its worse. smoke=cool
Final word: I'm not gonna stop blowing smoke.
Final word: I'm not gonna stop blowing smoke.
#38
Originally Posted by Stamey
That's what people need to realize, that the gassers DON'T know that the smoke coming from our tailpipes, while visible, is less harmfull than their gassers invisble emmisions. Problem is they CAN see it, and they think it's more of a bad thing.
#40
Originally Posted by cumminsdriver635
Ok then dang it. I will just tell some of you guys. I dont have a problem with people smoking Cigarettes. It does not bother me, and i dont really consider it as something that affects my health. But the thing is; we go to resteraunts all the time, and anywhere you go, and you see people smoking cigarettes. That means you are inhailing 2nd hand smoke. I would be willing to bet some of you who are saying that our trucks smoking is just horrible is a big cigarette smoker. Like i said, it doesent bother me, but if they can ticket our trucks for smoking, then why isnt it illegal for people to smoke cigarettes? Our trucks are means of transportation that we need, and smoking cigarettes is just an addiction. Like i said, it still doesent bother me, but its just something to consider, cause i bet cigarette smoke is harder on you than #2. Also, coming home from scheid in indiana, i got 22mpg with my "smokey" truck. And i did not drive it easy the whole time. I poured the coal to it a few times. Most of you guys also dont seem to understand that you have to have fuel to spool the turbo. My truck will only haze smoke once i spool the turbo, but before that i can black out the road. Like Eskimo said. Some of you act like you were never a teenager, and also as he said, they burnt tires a long time ago, and we are all still alive. Smoke also comes from oil, which comes fromt he ground, so it is in our enviroment one way or the other. If you are that worried about smoke buy a hybrid.
Eric
Eric
#41
I am going to be facetious here.
"You drive your truck like you want and I'll drive my truck how I want."
And what exactly do you gain my blowing smoke ? That is the part that I just don't understand. Do you make more power when the diesel fuel doesn't burn properly IN the combustion chamber ? Does it save fuel ? No on both counts.
The only justification that I can come up with for people who want to blow smoke is that it looks cool. It makes them feel manly. It's like when we were 8 and we put cards in our bicycle wheels so that our bicycles sounded like motorcycles. I guess some people want their trucks to smoke "like a real truck". Well, guess what. Real trucks don't smoke any more. When I see a big rig smoking, I wonder why the driver doesn't get the engine fixed.
And one more thing. I've heard the argument "they aren't running clean, so why should I ?" several times. It goes back to the fishbowl thing. There is only one and we share it. It is in our best interest to take care of it. And besides, maybe someone else is saying that he won't clean up his emissions because he sees YOU smoking.
I'm happy to see that we can have a sane discussion about this topic.
"You drive your truck like you want and I'll drive my truck how I want."
And what exactly do you gain my blowing smoke ? That is the part that I just don't understand. Do you make more power when the diesel fuel doesn't burn properly IN the combustion chamber ? Does it save fuel ? No on both counts.
The only justification that I can come up with for people who want to blow smoke is that it looks cool. It makes them feel manly. It's like when we were 8 and we put cards in our bicycle wheels so that our bicycles sounded like motorcycles. I guess some people want their trucks to smoke "like a real truck". Well, guess what. Real trucks don't smoke any more. When I see a big rig smoking, I wonder why the driver doesn't get the engine fixed.
And one more thing. I've heard the argument "they aren't running clean, so why should I ?" several times. It goes back to the fishbowl thing. There is only one and we share it. It is in our best interest to take care of it. And besides, maybe someone else is saying that he won't clean up his emissions because he sees YOU smoking.
I'm happy to see that we can have a sane discussion about this topic.
#42
Dont take me wrong guys. Like i said. I really do hate to smoke anyone out unless they are driving stupid, and deserve it, or i just cant help it, but most of the time i can control it to only haze a little. I am trying to drive easy(less smoke) this tank of fuel anyway since it is now close to $3 a gallon again, and i want to see what kind of mileage i get. I am considering a stack to get it out of peoples faces anyway so that when it does smoke, people arent having to drive through it. I wont lie. I still love to roll the smoke every now and then, but i only deliberatley do it when no one is following me. Like i said. I am also wanting a Valet switch to keep on 90% of the time to keep the smoke down in town. I dont need the power most of the time, but i love it when i want it, and i wont give it up cause it blows a little smoke every now and then. Also, dont tell me smoke cant equal power, because if it does, then Scheid and the rest have a lot of power left to gain.
Like i said. I really wish some of you had to drive a modded 12v for a week, and you would know what i am talking about when i say its hard to drive with no smoke(especially with this tight converter).
Eric
Like i said. I really wish some of you had to drive a modded 12v for a week, and you would know what i am talking about when i say its hard to drive with no smoke(especially with this tight converter).
Eric
#43
thats a bunch of bull, a truck belching that much smoke won't pass an emissions test in ohio. we have e-check here in clark county and was checked earlier this year. my score was a .001 out of 20 it barely registered.[IMG] [/IMG]
#44
In California if even a little bit of smoke came out of your exhaust, you would have the cops on your tail before you knew it.
Heck we cannot get away with much of anything here even if it is unintentional let alone we did it because it looks cool.
Don’t know about where you are, but here if you are involved in street racing, they not only give you a big fine, but they confsicate your car as well. And if you are a bystander/ spectator, you are arrested.
Yes I was young and did crazy things, heck in 1970 I had a Boss 351 with a Paxton supercharger and I had plenty of horsepower to burn plus tires, and I did. I also could not keep the cops off my tail, was stopped many times but they never caught me for speeding, I knew when and where to do it.
I always liked to have people WONDER what I had and not know.
Someone mentioned Los Angeles in the 50’s and 60’s well I remember it and in the 70’s I worked in it and I can remember the smog being so bad that you could not breathe and your eyes burned so bad that they were full of tears and you couldn’t see to drive. You could drive into LA from the east and the city was hidden in a dark brown shroud of yuck.
We are in a fishbowl and the air is bad and we are contributing a lot but there are other things contributing too. I am sure all the oil fires in the Middle East polluted more than all the smoking trucks could do for the next 10 years, then there are the volcanos and forest fires, space shuttle launches.
If you like smoke then that is your thing and you are going to do it no mater what anybody says anyway, just do it in moderation and don’t get caught, it's just one of the many laws they are going to pass to try and get the older vehicles off the highway.
Who knows, we pass all these laws and try and clean up the air and tell everybody you can’t do this or that. Then a few years from now North Korea will hit us with a nuclear missile and it wont really make any difference after all.
And here in California, if you pulled up along someone at a stop light and filled their car with smoke, they would probably shoot you.
Heck we cannot get away with much of anything here even if it is unintentional let alone we did it because it looks cool.
Don’t know about where you are, but here if you are involved in street racing, they not only give you a big fine, but they confsicate your car as well. And if you are a bystander/ spectator, you are arrested.
Yes I was young and did crazy things, heck in 1970 I had a Boss 351 with a Paxton supercharger and I had plenty of horsepower to burn plus tires, and I did. I also could not keep the cops off my tail, was stopped many times but they never caught me for speeding, I knew when and where to do it.
I always liked to have people WONDER what I had and not know.
Someone mentioned Los Angeles in the 50’s and 60’s well I remember it and in the 70’s I worked in it and I can remember the smog being so bad that you could not breathe and your eyes burned so bad that they were full of tears and you couldn’t see to drive. You could drive into LA from the east and the city was hidden in a dark brown shroud of yuck.
We are in a fishbowl and the air is bad and we are contributing a lot but there are other things contributing too. I am sure all the oil fires in the Middle East polluted more than all the smoking trucks could do for the next 10 years, then there are the volcanos and forest fires, space shuttle launches.
If you like smoke then that is your thing and you are going to do it no mater what anybody says anyway, just do it in moderation and don’t get caught, it's just one of the many laws they are going to pass to try and get the older vehicles off the highway.
Who knows, we pass all these laws and try and clean up the air and tell everybody you can’t do this or that. Then a few years from now North Korea will hit us with a nuclear missile and it wont really make any difference after all.
And here in California, if you pulled up along someone at a stop light and filled their car with smoke, they would probably shoot you.
#45
i agree smoke is lost power, my old 12er smokes a little when i get on it. smoking out an intersection i believe is just plain wrong. 2 years ago i poisoned myself with carbon monoxide in a closed space. not a good feeling. when you smoke out an intersection try to think about a car with a young child or baby in it or an older person with weaker lung capacity. that smoke-out can make a person seriously ill. or kill them. you get out on track/strip or out in open yeah let it rip. i think it looks cool but try to consider others also