Interesting Bosch presentation on Diesel fuel lubrication
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Interesting Bosch presentation on Diesel fuel lubrication
The following link is a very interesting presentation by Bosch on US diesel lubrication issues:
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline...22003bosch.pdf
We may have to consider using additives if we want our injection systems to last. There is no current US standard for diesel fuel lubrication -- and it appears to be really critical with common rail and rotary pump systems.
http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasoline...22003bosch.pdf
We may have to consider using additives if we want our injection systems to last. There is no current US standard for diesel fuel lubrication -- and it appears to be really critical with common rail and rotary pump systems.
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From what I hear, they are planning to have the distributors add the treatment packages to low sulfur diesel to avoid pipeline contamination. Thus we may be the victims of local quality control - some to none.
I think we may be forced to always add lubricity additives ourselves to insure the life of our common rail (3rd gen) and rotary pumps (24 valve).
I think we may be forced to always add lubricity additives ourselves to insure the life of our common rail (3rd gen) and rotary pumps (24 valve).
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You have needed lubricity additive in your fuel for a couple of years now. No one can or would agree on specs or how to measure lubricity. You the consumer have been measuring it by how many failed fuel injection systems have been replaced or are not working properly.
I have been adding lubricity mixture for several years and I can tell on my trucks when I do not use it. Especially in the 600.
I have been adding lubricity mixture for several years and I can tell on my trucks when I do not use it. Especially in the 600.
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Do Diesel Additives Have a Role? Pros and Cons
http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/...NZConf/08b.pdf
Extending Diesel Engine Life and Fuel Economy with Canola Based Fuel Additives
http://www.scdc.sk.ca/pdf/fact8biodiesel.pdf
"Word-wide fuel lubricity surveys by Paramins in the U.K. indicated that Canadian
diesel fuels were among the most deficient in the HFRR test. For years 1996, 1997, and 1998 Canadian low sulfur winter fuels produced considerably larger wear scars, averaging 590 µm in size."
http://www.worldenergy.org/wec-geis/...NZConf/08b.pdf
Extending Diesel Engine Life and Fuel Economy with Canola Based Fuel Additives
http://www.scdc.sk.ca/pdf/fact8biodiesel.pdf
"Word-wide fuel lubricity surveys by Paramins in the U.K. indicated that Canadian
diesel fuels were among the most deficient in the HFRR test. For years 1996, 1997, and 1998 Canadian low sulfur winter fuels produced considerably larger wear scars, averaging 590 µm in size."
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Another interesting thing to note about the presentation is the date. It's almost 2 years old.
Almost out of Stanadyne PF. I will be continuing my practice of year around use. I get it by the case.....
Matt
Almost out of Stanadyne PF. I will be continuing my practice of year around use. I get it by the case.....
Matt
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40% diesels in Europe seems high but maybe... The reason I got interested in, and bought, a diesel truck is because I rented a diesel Peugot in Germany last vacation. I've never had so much fun in a car!! Incredible power and handling.....
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Extending Diesel Engine Life and Fuel Economy with Canola Based Fuel Additives
http://www.scdc.sk.ca/pdf/fact8biodiesel.pdf
http://www.scdc.sk.ca/pdf/fact8biodiesel.pdf
They speak of using Canola oil esters...
Does this mean you can dump a bottle of grocery store Canola oil into your fuel tank and get like results?? or proper lubricity?
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so, SHOULD we be running a Fuel Lubricatoin Additive in our trucks?
is that the cause of the pump failures?
the US measurements are all LOOS on those slides.
how much/when/from where?
is that the cause of the pump failures?
the US measurements are all LOOS on those slides.
how much/when/from where?