Interesting article on Ford
01-22-2004 | 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by DieselDaze
The semi's you see on the road are often built to generic specs for engines.
One Peterbilt may have a Cummins, the next one has a Cat. Same with Kenworths and many others.
The owner has a choice about what engine he/she is going to run.
Is the Pickup truck market going to eventually head down this same path?
I personally hope so.
The semi's you see on the road are often built to generic specs for engines.
One Peterbilt may have a Cummins, the next one has a Cat. Same with Kenworths and many others.
The owner has a choice about what engine he/she is going to run.
Is the Pickup truck market going to eventually head down this same path?
I personally hope so.
Actually the truck manufacturers are going the other way and most will not offer the "choice" of engines.
01-23-2004 | 03:20 AM
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I have to believe Ford went with the 6.0 for emissions reasons. the 7.3 was solid throughout it's various states of evolution.
I bought mine for 2 reasons..the Cummins w/ 6 shooter and I coudn't find a Ford dually without the chassis cab. For me the quad cab with suicide rears works better.
Ford's do ride nicer., but they have a butt ugly dash.
I bought mine for 2 reasons..the Cummins w/ 6 shooter and I coudn't find a Ford dually without the chassis cab. For me the quad cab with suicide rears works better.
Ford's do ride nicer., but they have a butt ugly dash.
01-23-2004 | 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by Iron Horse
I think it would be great if Ford would go to a Detroit or a MB. Because DC owns both of them, so we could finnaly get back for all the Ford owns Cummins stuff.
I think it would be great if Ford would go to a Detroit or a MB. Because DC owns both of them, so we could finnaly get back for all the Ford owns Cummins stuff.
Cummings.....Cummings.....
01-23-2004 | 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by Palmetto_kid
i would spots.
I mean,,,who buys these dodge trucks because their dodge? I didnt. I bought mine becuase it has a Cummins in it.
i would spots.
I mean,,,who buys these dodge trucks because their dodge? I didnt. I bought mine becuase it has a Cummins in it.
01-23-2004 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Palmetto_kid
i would spots.
I mean,,,who buys these dodge trucks because their dodge? I didnt. I bought mine becuase it has a Cummins in it.
i would spots.
I mean,,,who buys these dodge trucks because their dodge? I didnt. I bought mine becuase it has a Cummins in it.
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01-23-2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Haulin_in_Dixie
Actually the truck manufacturers are going the other way and most will not offer the "choice" of engines.
Actually the truck manufacturers are going the other way and most will not offer the "choice" of engines.
You are correct.
This is the reason that I said:
...are often built ...
The point I was going after was nothing more than a theoretical one.
How many the competitor customers would switch to Ford if they could buy a Ford with a diesel engine of their choice?
Just a point to ponder.
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01-24-2004 | 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by spots
I wonder how many people would buy a Superduty with a Cummins? (if they had a choice?)
I wonder how many people would buy a Superduty with a Cummins? (if they had a choice?)
01-24-2004 | 11:15 AM
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I think the evolution of auto's and trucks will lead to the generic mfg. of all engines gas and diesel. To save costs the engine will become a competitively built item similar to other products. The consumer will choose the options. IMO it's a ways down the road but I tink it will happen.
01-24-2004 | 09:13 PM
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what exactly is that ford 6.0 ?? I heard it was a Cat 3116 ??
We only have a small ford dealer here in my town and I have already heard bad things about them. Mainly that they are hard to work on . Isn't the timing set in the rear of the engine ? DAVE
We only have a small ford dealer here in my town and I have already heard bad things about them. Mainly that they are hard to work on . Isn't the timing set in the rear of the engine ? DAVE
01-24-2004 | 09:22 PM
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The Ford 6.0 is made by International. Clean sheet of paper design, nothing in common with the previous Powerstroke. It was rushed into production before it was really ready, IMO. It is totally different from everything International has made in the past, the learning curve was just too steep.
01-25-2004 | 07:35 AM
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3116 Cat would be too heavy for a one ton truck. More suited to the medium duty GM Topkick and International trucks. 6.0 have much teething pain, some info can be found on the web. Yes they are a tight fit under the hood. They use HEUI injectors instead of common rail like DC and GM. They have had some injector issues as well.
01-28-2004 | 02:07 PM
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More information about the 6.0 - looks to me like the bugs haven't been worked out in 04. Geez. Is this going to turn into a GM 6.2-6.5 type engine, or even worse? I am not trying to start a war here, I'm seriously concerned that it'll happen if they don't fix this thing soon. I wonder if the replacement engine that's slated for 07 will go in early because of items like this.
Special Service Instruction 04T03-S1 affects certain vehicles built at KTP from January 3, 2004 through January 7, 2004. In some of the affected vehicles equipped with a 6.0L Diesel engine, the #3 crankshaft rod journal was not properly machined, resulting in a rough bearing surface. This rough bearing surface can result in an engine seizure at very low mileage. Dealers are to inspect the engine crankshaft on all affected vehicles for a stamped identification mark. After the technician has inspected the engine and located the stamped identification mark, dealers are to call the Technical Hotline for further instructions.
Note: There are a limited number of vehicles affected by this program (approximately 200 nation wide), of which less than half will require engine replacement.
The original SSI 04T03 was dated 1/13/2004. Supplement #1 summarized above is dated 1/16/2004.
Note: There are a limited number of vehicles affected by this program (approximately 200 nation wide), of which less than half will require engine replacement.
The original SSI 04T03 was dated 1/13/2004. Supplement #1 summarized above is dated 1/16/2004.
01-29-2004 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Beavermike
Any idea how may ctd's Dodge sells?
The article says that GM expects to sell 150,000 diesels and is closing in on F's 250,000. GM up from 2 percent to 29 percent, that's quite amazing.
Any idea how may ctd's Dodge sells?
The article says that GM expects to sell 150,000 diesels and is closing in on F's 250,000. GM up from 2 percent to 29 percent, that's quite amazing.
"Dodge now has over 28% of the heavy-duty diesel market, recently passing GM and setting its sights on Ford’s dominating share. Considering that Ford sold nearly twice as many F-series pickups last year as Dodge Rams (845,586 units vs. 449,371, according to Automotive News), Dodge’s presence in the heavy-duty market is quite remarkable and continuing to improve."
I guess it depends on who's numbers you use.