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Info on new Furd Diesel..the Navistar Divorce looks to be final

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:13 PM
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Info on new Furd Diesel..the Navistar Divorce looks to be final

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/new...big-sting.html

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390 hp stock is pretty cool though
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And it's getting 3mpg better than the 6.4L. Well 13mpg is better than 10mpg I guess.

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2011 is a couple of years away. I ll wait and see what cummins numbers are in 2011 they wont let furd out do them.
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WHY oh WHY do these things need that much power from the factory. I would much rather have them look into better fuel mileage than constantly upping the HP and taking the MPG's away.......! 325hp and 20mpg will better suite 70% of the buyers compared to 400hp and 10mpg. jb
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And it's getting 3mpg better than the 6.4L. Well 13mpg is better than 10mpg I guess.

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Maybe they shoulda' said "30% increase in fuel economy instead", would've sounded way more impressive.
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It's all talk until the final product is on the lot, and like they said in another thred "the only thing that runs good on a power stroke, is the owners mouth"....
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Originally Posted by boostjunkie1
WHY oh WHY do these things need that much power from the factory. I would much rather have them look into better fuel mileage than constantly upping the HP and taking the MPG's away.......! 325hp and 20mpg will better suite 70% of the buyers compared to 400hp and 10mpg. jb
I was thinking that exact thing. Not to mention either broken drivetrain pieces, or just the expense to make them live.
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While we are on the powerchoke I saw another 6.0 huffing black smoke like crazy on an off ramp. He pulled under the overpass so I stopped and at least let him know about a possible CAC boot being off. He checked it and it was tight. Oh well. I didn't have the heart to tell time to get a hook because it was more than likely the EGR valve stuck open. Poor fellar... NOT!!!!
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I don't think of them as a powerchoke but rather a poor sick.0...
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Originally Posted by boostjunkie1
WHY oh WHY do these things need that much power from the factory. I would much rather have them look into better fuel mileage than constantly upping the HP and taking the MPG's away.......! 325hp and 20mpg will better suite 70% of the buyers compared to 400hp and 10mpg. jb
The 30% of truck buyers that use their truck for towing would rather have 400 hp over 325. I am sure the 1/2 ton diesel's coming out will be better suited for the other 70% of truck buyers.

It's good to see the power wor between Ford, Chevy and Dodge starting up again!!
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It's good to see the power wor between Ford, Chevy and Dodge starting up again!!
Last time that happened, economy went to crap and EPA killed the fun. Hmm, interesting.
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I would be happy with 350-375 Horsepower so long as it had at least 950 foot pounds of Torque to the ground along with 20-21 mpg hwy when empty.
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Originally Posted by boostjunkie1
WHY oh WHY do these things need that much power from the factory. I would much rather have them look into better fuel mileage than constantly upping the HP and taking the MPG's away.......! 325hp and 20mpg will better suite 70% of the buyers compared to 400hp and 10mpg. jb
Interesting. My 03 5 speed I had dyno'd 525 horsepower and I was constantly over 22-23mpg. Sure, not stock power but it kind of busts the myth a little bit on high hp meaning low mpg's.
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HP and fuel economy are not related in most instances. Diesels only use an amount of fuel that is necessary to overcome pumping losses, vehicle drag, at a given speed. This is why some of the diesels get slightly better fuel economy after they have been souped up. We can go into allot more detail if you like?

My Dodge which has 450 HP at the rear wheels consistently gets 23-24 on the road and about 16 around town.


If they made a big four cylinder diesel with enough power it would get better mileage.


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