OK you guys...
I've been lurking on here for about 2 years, and the poor spelling, grammar, and "smoke stories" here are just brutal. I can't understand how people get so excited over an engine running so over-rich that it blocks out the sun. I really do enjoy the General Diesel forum, as well as the "other" forum. Way more interesting and active than any other Diesel site.
Sure the 6.0 has its problems, and is NOTHING without boost, but lately people are making some serious HP for few $ and it will only get better. Aftermarket Head Studs seem to be the only "non-horsepower-producing" mod needed to hold 40+ psi and 450+ hp. The Torqshift is awesome, seamless shifting and it gives so much warning before totally quitting.

The reason there is no "PSDdodge.com" is, why put a 250,000 mile engine in a 100,000 mile truck?

Up here in Alberta, where Oil & Gas, Mining, Forestry, and Agriculture are KING, even diehard Chevy (not "chebby") and Dodge guys agree that SuperDutys rule for work trucks. The mines buy 'em because they last 12 months instead of 8 for dodge and 6 for chevy.

Ideal Truck - 2006 F-350 w/5.9ISB, Torqshift, Chev Interior!

 

if you need aftermarket arp headstuds to hold 450 ft lbs, you can keep that furd

 

Alberta60, the old school argument that the Cummins is good and the dodge is crap is such a joke, and just that - old news. If it's only a 100k body, then why are there so many cummins powered dodges with more than 500k miles, and several with a million plus? Your information is dated , but at least you recognize the PSD is only a little 250k mile engine

 

''if you need aftermarket arp headstuds to hold 450 ft lbs, you can keep that furd ''


to his credit, he said HP, not torque.


As for me, it all comes down to fundamental reliability. That's why I have an early first gen--I don't want an ECM, I want a tractor that's street legal, hehe. The little Cummins was designed with construction and agricultre in mind and, as such, employs copious amounts of heat absorbing, abuse taking cast iron...and little else! I give credit to Cummins for getting a 20 year old design to still pass emissions in 50 states AND have a fair amount of power/economy to boot. I give them credit for not changing the FOUNDATION that has proved so simple and reliable for so long, relatively speaking. As for the Fords and Chevys, they are to be commended for breaking new ground and trying new concepts in order to deliver the same power and economy to their loyal customers. As for reliability, it's to early to tell. My truck has more miles backing up to trailers than most super duties around here have going forward...but, that will change in a decade and then we'll all see, firsthand, how the new designs stand the test of time. I'd like to see more maxes and strokes clean up at the pulls and drags---it'd be a showcase of good old American get-'er-done-ability and hey, competition is a good thing, no? For those of us without money to burn, an old 12 valve is the ultimate compromise. I get 22 mpg EVERY tank. I can pull my 10k 5er with authority (though it won't blister up mountain passes at 80 mph...don't really care) and I've given some fairly quick rides a run for their money, all in an old work truck that has 400,000+ miles and no payments. Oh yeah, and it sounds like a big rig Show me a Ford, Chevy or anything else that can fill that bill and I'll buy it!

JMO

Greg

 

mod needed to hold 40+ psi and 450+ hp

Oops, I guess I need to spectate. Sorry about that one.

 

your from Lethbridge your only a hop skip and a jump from Montana.
Follow me up north Red Earth, Zamma city, Indian cabins, Fort Nelson, Helmet, Fort Liard. I'll school you on which truck will make the winter in the patch. I've dragged my fair share of fords & chevs out of the bush.


<--- reminds me of the rig crew working on the drillers ford

 

Alberta60 - I must have got a bad Dodge, because mine has just over 303,000 miles. MILES, not kilometers. Of course, I don't call it bad, just bada**

 

krock - Did I see your truck at the Edson Mohawk on thursday night around 7:45 pm? Sure I call Lethbridge home, but I don't spend much time there! Presently working in Edson, in the last year I've worked Gasfields in western Wyoming, Rifle Colorado, Rocky Mountain House, High Level, Chinchaga, Wabasca, Claresholm, Airdrie, and Nordegg. So I'm not just some stubble jumper! LOL.

Not trying to start a Brand War or Hijack...

 

This thread was a brand war from the very beginning...

You just gave us something to shoot at.

 

I believe the 5.9 has been in service since the early/mid 60's. Quite impressive, considering not much has changed other than head design and fuel injection systems.

 

Wow, she is an old mill! Thanks for the info.

greg

 

IIRC, I read an article in Diesel Power that Cummins had manufactured 3 million+ of the ISB's and it was the most successful motor in their history.

 

My brother in law owns a 2005 PSD and every time he gets in my Ram he gets Edit. Not because he has to ride in a RAM, but because he didn't buy a RAM and doesn't have a Cummins!

Regards

 

My GF now wants a dodge after lots of riding in my nice big straight piped truck, compared to her quiet GMC Duramax....Plus she likes the frontends on the rams better lol just a random convert!

 

Look at Alberta60's signature:

2004 F350 SRW 4X4 CC SWB Lariat, 6.0 auto, DPPI cat-back Duals, SC1704 Programmer, 4" BDS lift, 315 Cooper S/Ts, Motor gone 8/21/04, no warranty, lookin for options...