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Old 08-30-2005 | 09:11 PM
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I am on the fence to say. I collect my paycheck from the blue oval and overall they have some decent vehicles. All automakers have problems, and all of them have cars that should have never been released. I guess i get so upset that these people are buying a truck that truely does run like a rocket, only to learn how many problems they "could" have down the road. Most people today that buy a diesel dont know anything other than what fuel to put in(and some get that wrong) I try to be honest, and I try to state facts. the 6.0 design has not been tested long enough to claim anything about reliability, and if the first 100k speak about the next, it doesnt look good. Here is my post, and of course everyone jumps on the bandwagon with thier ego. Lets be honest, im not a 6.0 fan. I think the 7.3psd was a much much better engine in terms of torque, and reliability. Here is my response to the original persons question: "HOW RELIABLE IS A 2006 6.0 PSD" After a few ego's jumped in


"Actually, I dont own one of these terds, im sorry so i speak on the countless numbers of people who call me day in and day out complaining(yeah i work for Ford). The problem is most...yes most people on here do not have the tools to work on this engine. Most people dont have the technology to run a simple injector cackle test, and without a WDS, neither would most of us.

I admit I am embarrased by this engine. Should I be upset, no because my name isnt on the side of it. I drive 35 miles of I-80 to work everday. And I have seen more 6.0 broke down, than the other 2. But why is it I dont see many if any 7.3 PSD broke down?? I cant remember the last time we had a 2003 7.3 psd in for engine warranty, how do you explaine that? Its like polishing a terd...you still have a terd. Is the 6.0 impressive on power...empty yes, it will run like a rocket in even a big f-350 crew cab, but is it dependable...by no means NO.

Doesnt anyone wonder why Ford is so hush hush even to us dealers? I feel its because if people feel there is a better option in the next model years, then they wont sell off their remaining stock

The 6.0 has underwent some updates from 2003, yes. But engines under 50k shouldnt have injector, headgasket, turbo, etc problems. If they do, what happens at 150k, or 250k?

I think most of you have too much pride in Ford to admit that they "screwed up" so you keep supporting a problematic engine. Cheby guys did too when there ol 350 had a flat cam lobe at 45k.

Im just prooving a point that this engine is expensive. If you have 7 warranty claims under 100k, how many are you gonna have when the engine is actually "broke in" If you dont have the funds to replace injectors out of warranty, i.e. no less than 5 bills for dealership removal, replacement and diag time. then dont go with a 6.0, go with a 7.3 psd used up to 2003MY, or the 5.4 or v10. So far both of the gassers have been less problematic than the engine that is suppose to "run forever"

This is not a dis-service...its the truth. For the weekend cruiser who wants to look good in a diesel, its not for you, unless you are prepared to lay out a few bills. If this website wants to candy-coat a costly engine, thats your problem. not mine.

I see so many owners getting passed around from dealer to dealer because a lot of dealers have no idea how to fix these trucks, and being that we have a very good reputation of employing some of the top diesel techs in the area, we get a lot dumped on us. This is fact... sensors here and reflashes her and fuel filters here and ICP's here and EPB's there, none of which anyone knows will fix the problem, and they just pass it on telling the customer its "ok"
Old 08-30-2005 | 09:44 PM
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OMG..

these guys are just as extreme as my former site.. if not they are worse.. I just read and my disdain for the 6.0 has risen, Its not a wonder ppl are throwin them back left and right.... I dont see half as many fords anymore around town as i do dodges and chevys, if anything the general public themselves know that these trucks are not gettin a good rep, just look around...

I wish they still had that 7.3, my uncles have them and they are awesome engines.. and to top it off, the 6.0 sounds kinda wimpy, cept for the turbo whine..

Tx
Old 08-30-2005 | 09:51 PM
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I love Ford vehicles; I think that they have much more "common-sense" engineers then GM or Chrysler when it comes to vacuum systems, wiring, brakes, interiors, and all of those other widgets. But when it comes to powertrains, Fords have never been the top dog.


Ford's have always given me a lot less grief, and a lot of people would rather change sparkplugs than chase down Chrysler's electrical snafu's. (Then again, I've only ever "owned" 1 Ford, so I'm not most experienced person when it comes to that...) But what the heck was and is Ford thinking with the 6.0? Maybe they're intentionally falling behind so that they can make a dramatic comback with the twin turbo V-12 that they're coming out with in '08?
Old 08-30-2005 | 10:17 PM
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I live in a small town where everyone brags about how great their furds are...and then they pull up the next day in a little car or F-150, and I ask about their PSD and they say they had to take it in to get some work on it. I just stare...My truck has been a good truck since me ( 17 years old) drives like a freaking maniac. The one thing that really aggrivated me on that furd site was the fact that when you said something about the CTD they said it was crap. Now, I give ford this, they have a neat interior, crappy stereo design though, but I like the room. But still if you want reliability, this is no way biased, since we have had a 2000 Psd 7.3 and it ran good, but once we got stranded because of a lovely transmission and some other things, dont remember what they were, I believe it had something to do with the turbo, but I honestly dont remember, I do remember that we only had around 35k miles on it, and I remember my dad standing out there cussing the furd dealership. We also had a duramax and that little truck would run, it was fast and quiet and roomy...only problem was we took it back after three days, it didnt want to get the fuel in the engine right...but yeah. We have only had one problem on a '96 cummins with the 5th gear nut at 236k. We have just had a little less trouble with the dodges and that is an honest opinion lol. Anyways sorry to get on my soapbox. Good luck battling it out.
Old 08-30-2005 | 10:24 PM
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Confusious say.... bucket of crap dont stink until you stir with stick
Old 08-30-2005 | 11:32 PM
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haha....i laugh the whole time reading this post........my buddy had a 04 6.0 and the engine blew piston 1 and 2 ..... 23k miles.... he had it towed in and the dealership kept it for 3 weeks trying to figure out what to do....finally my buddy ask for a truck to drive while they fix the peace of crap and it was an 04 Duramax they had in there used truck lot and he droove it for 3 weeks before asking the dealership if they could just sell him this truck.....the dealership agreed finally after days going by and putting 11k in miles on the barrowed truck........since then i have seen that truck sit in there CERTIFIED USED TRUCKS lot for 8 months now since they finish working on it.....and my buddy feels lot more safer in this truck... yet its still not a cummins......i been trying to convince him to trade it in for a cummins but when he took it up to dodge they didnt want to give him crap for it... i laughed by mistake when he told me afterwards.......
Old 08-31-2005 | 12:49 AM
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For some reason, they seem to stay off the boards over here... I think Jack must have installed some sort of moron filter on the new server....
Old 08-31-2005 | 02:52 AM
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These Ford guys are great! I like them so much I have TheDieselStop.com as my homepage! They just LOVE me!
Old 08-31-2005 | 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by Barry Smith
These Ford guys are great! I like them so much I have TheDieselStop.com as my homepage! They just LOVE me!
he he he he..

Ive read ur carnage on there... U got some guts to rile them up, they just plain blame me for the "cummins revolt" that they had on the IDI forum.. he he he he he

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Old 08-31-2005 | 01:00 PM
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ramsey they sure shut up quick about how great their trucks were after you said that. I think you got a reaction kinda like throwing a cup of cold water in someones face when they're dreaming! that whole truth thing is a rude awakening to some people

and yeah, it's ironic that there's no PSDdodge.com. interesting. just coincidence i'm sure....
Old 08-31-2005 | 01:38 PM
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OMG..

these guys are just as extreme as my former site..
Are you talkin about Alldieselmotorsports?
Old 08-31-2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Deezle98
Are you talkin about Alldieselmotorsports?
Nope

Barry's homepage..

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Old 08-31-2005 | 10:01 PM
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Should put the video of the ford at Scheid's , getting 10th at the truck pulls, and ripping apart his rearend .
Old 09-01-2005 | 02:22 PM
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I love how the ford boys love the 100k warranty, but like what was earlier in this thread, not too many people know how to work on them, heck the ford mechanics can't fix the problem with the 6.0s without throwing parts them. To tell you the truth I think Ford will just get worse with their "new and improved engine", unless they stay simple. Simple is bulletproof and reliable. Just look at our 3G engines, the only common problem is faulty injectors which I haven't dealt with yet, knock on wood, but the cummins is and simple and stout. I had a 7.3 and they were still kinda complicated, wiring harnesses under the valve covers that wore out, dual glow plug relays, and camshaft positioning sensors that went out and the engine died. Talk about simple, look at the 73-87 chevys with the 350, 400, and 454, there are still a ton of those trucks out running around and parts are a dime a dozen.

The new ford motor design, will make power, but will still be the most complicated thing to work on and fix. Also the word out on them is that they are ecm proof, meaning no performance enhancements.

Ford boys just need to take a ride in the Big-C and realize the oppurtunity for torque gobbing reliable power. Rattle on.
Old 09-01-2005 | 03:27 PM
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Its funny to go to the truck pulls and watch the few ford and chevy diesels that are there compete with all the dodges. The dodge cummins dominate the pulling circuit. When ever these guys start talking about there PSD's, I just ask them how many big rigs they have seen with a power stroke diesel in them. LOL I work in the construction industry and I know a lot of contractors that have upgraded from the 7.3 to the 6.0 and they hate it. Says it doesn't pull anything like the 7.3 did. At the scheid diesel extravaganza there was one ford that was impressive but it had a cummins engine it


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