Chrysler & GM in merger talks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/...r_merger_talks

 

Whew! The talks were a month ago and GM's shares are practically in the dump.
Forbes posted this about it a few minutes ago: http://www.forbes.com/business/2008/...d=rss_business

So, it doesn't appear to be a deal. I suspect GMAC might be sold off to Cerebrus (the dog at the gates of Hell).

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/...r_merger_talks
what will they call the new products

 

Dodgachev?


For everybody that's been wanting a Cummins mated to an Allison trans, this might be your chance.

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GM sold Allison Transmissions to a private investing group last spring..

 

Yeah, but the still have them behind the D-Max so it could still happen.

 

Maybe just drop the deal with cummins... It'd be cheaper for em to use there own engine.. Dmax.

 

You do know to depress a forum full of Dodge people don't you

 

Duramax isn't any more GMs engine than Cummins is DCs engine but I think the right 2 out of the 3 could be merging. I've owned my share of Fs and I never had a problem with the blue oval blinder at all. I have to drive them at work sometimes and I think they suck. I had an 04 F250 for a service truck and I traded for a 92 3/4T Chev as soon as that tech quit. What a great trade! Craig

 

would be nice to have comfortable truck with a good motor for once

 

Well, since both use the American Axle, and used to share transmissions (the NV4500), there could be hope for some cost savings. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to pick between either make and choose your engine? Either an 8 cylinder V configuration or an inline 6. Then you could pick your transmission and other drive components too. There would have to be a lot of other consolidation too though. You might see Chevy stop making a line and let GMC pick up the truck lines, while Jeep may be kept alive (lots of name recognition), you might see some of the cross-platform mid sized SUV's get canned.
Anybody remember Checker Motors? You could get ANY configuration you wanted. GM engine mated to a Ford Transmission and Chrysler axles. They only made the body. In fact, as I recall, with the mid-70's Jeep Wagoneer you could get either a Chrysler or Ford built 360 V-8.
These are certainly interesting times we are living in.

 

I don't want any of that GM junk. They can keep it!!!!!!! Duraslack and Allyjunk go hand in hand to the junk yard!!!!!!!!!

 

Oh yes, I remember Checker. I own a '70 wagon, and my grandfather and father drove them for many years.

But that ain't the way it happened. Pre-'64 in the 4 door cars, they used Continental inline sixes (flathead std, OHV optional) with Borg-Warner transmissions (3 speed std, electric OD or automatic optional) and Dana axles. The automatic was also used by AMC and called the "Flash-O-Matic." Jaguar used it as well. The pre-'64 6 and 8 door cars (Aerobus models) used Chrysler small blocks. In '64 they switched to Chevy power in all models (230 six std, 283 2 bbl and 327 4 bbl optional). They stayed with Chevy until the bitter end in 1982, when CAFE standards had the 229 V-6 as the only available engine. 5,000 lb car + 229 V-6 + 2.73 rear = The "Flash-O-Matic" stuck around until the early '70's when they switched to the TH400. They switched to GM corporate rears sometime in the '70's, too.

To keep this in "General Diesel" territory, I should mention that a Perkins 4 cylinder was available from '68 - '71, and the awful 350 Oldsmodiesel was available from '79 - '81. There were also quite a few factory propane powered cars.

 

Just one example of GMs proactiveness... they didn't used the edit half splined mainshaft and OD gear in THEIR nv4500. Craig

 

well I dont want any of your dodge/chrysler junk in my truck either.

ben