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Old 01-23-2004 | 09:15 PM
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Fuel Additives

Having used a readily availabe "at most Truck Stops" Anti Gel and not being happy with the fact that I Gelled and was left sitting over the weekend at -5 with Wind Chill at -40 I am consedering using Stanadyne or FPPF fuel additives for anti-gel, lubrication, etc.

Does anyone have an opinion as to which one is the best product ?

It does not have to be one of the above listed brands any suggestions would be appreciated because dead in the water at -5 with a wind chill of -40 is no fun.

Had to go with PS diesel 9-1-1 to get it going and frooze my butt off getting it up and running.

Please elaborate on the merits of any product specified.

Thank you very much
Old 01-23-2004 | 09:30 PM
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While it will freeze your butt, wind chill has no bearing on fuel gelling. The stanadyne will do the trick for you, no question.
Old 01-23-2004 | 09:32 PM
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i use howes ........... no problems since i changed my nasty fuel filter ...scott
Old 01-23-2004 | 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the guick reply, I realize that wind chill is for exposed flesh only but when you have to work in it, it gets your attention real quick.

Stanadyne seems to be the standard so I think that is the way I will go, but I will reserve my decision pending the outcome of the opinions on this thread.
Old 01-23-2004 | 10:36 PM
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I run straight #2 year round with additive in the winter and have tried several brands, none have failed me in temps down to minus 30°(no wind chill.) I use whatever is on sale, usually Howe's or Power Service, both have a guarantee that if your fuel gells they'll pay the tow. Stanadyne is good but hard to come by. Survey at an over the road trucker's website I visit said that over 80% of truckers are using Power Service.

If you are having trouble I'd suggest you check that your fuel heater is funtioning properly.
Old 01-23-2004 | 11:01 PM
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Powerservice is actually overpriced and not great IMO. IT's 77% diesel fuel, so you do the math. Stanadyne has a lot less filler and is more concentrated. It is available cheapest online. http://www.dieselpage.com/add1.htm is the cheapest I've found.
Old 01-23-2004 | 11:06 PM
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I personally don't believe in additives that deal with water in the fuel by demulsifying, such as stanadyne, powerservice DFS, etc. They clump water together with the hopes that the fuel filter will effectively stop all of it, which is silly. Anyone who's drained their fuel filter into a glass will tell you, there is almost never any water. I've never seen any in 100,000 miles of dieseling. The fact remains there is water in diesel fuel, so it's passing thru the system. Not good for high pressure common rail especially. Thats the reason I use an EMULSIFYING additive that effectively suspends and encapsulates water so that it harmlessly passes through the system. There are only two brands of emulsifying additives, Primrose, and the other may be fppf? In any case, I've found primrose to be the best by far. They supply 95% of the US military's additives and have for years. Not very retail savvy, but just recently became available. This stuff is mega concentrated - 12 oz bottle treats 187 gallons. Use the powermaster 405 for warm weather and 409 for winter. Primrose can be had at www.avlube.com . I used to run stanadyne but after primrose became available I switched, its just a much more logical solution IMO.
Old 01-24-2004 | 09:35 AM
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I just switched to primrose as well. I had been using LE DCI 2400 for the past year and after I found out that it is a demulsifier I decided to go with Primrose.
Old 01-24-2004 | 09:55 AM
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Question LIGHTMAN, question ???

Lightman does the primrose contain any alcohol ??? Sounds like a good product.How long have you been useing it ?? coobie
Old 01-24-2004 | 10:05 AM
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Primrose does NOT contain any alcohol. I have been using it for about a year and a half. It's very cost effective, at about 2.8 cents per treated gallon. It is the best out there IMO and ends up being just about as *cheap* as powerservice or the others, due to it being so concentrated.
Old 01-24-2004 | 10:09 AM
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the primrose website has good write ups on each of the fuel additive packages they make. www.primrose.com follow the links to fuel additives then pick your way through them and see which suits you. The 405 and 409 are excellent choices for most.
Old 01-24-2004 | 10:17 AM
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Ive been running 405 for a year and a half, never needed to try the 409 down here in FL, but I hear it works very well. I also know a guy who is a lube engineer, and did some fuel testing before and after primrose, and each time the cetane was boosted 4-6 points. The stuff delivers what it says it will do.
Old 01-24-2004 | 11:40 AM
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Has anyone tried Primrose's Lubri-Power 402? Reading the PDF file, it seems like this is exactly the kind of product those of us with the 2nd gen. VP44 pump need for insurance.

Thanks for the reference. Interesting stuff. Can you get Primrose products anywhere but AV Lube, out of curiousity? Apparently AV doesn't carry the 402 product.
Old 01-24-2004 | 11:43 AM
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I would email or call them, most likely they can get anything from the primrose line. I've been buying my Delvac 1 there and primrose for a long time, they have great customer service. Also George Morrison there is a lube engineer and has worked exclusively with diesel lubrication and fuels for 25 years or so...

The 405 does contain lubricity enhancers.
Old 01-24-2004 | 11:45 AM
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Does anyone run lucas addative?


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