I left a Fleetguard fuel filter in the solvent tank overnight, when the paint came off lo and behold it said Wix on it. This only applies to the fuel filters, Fleetguard makes their own oil filters.

 

Go figure....I dunno what to say anymore.....

They buy Wix fuel filters, restamp them and sell them as Cummins...yet they tell you to not use Wix oil filters....Ive heard of a number of failures caused by Wix oil filters.....I will still stay with fleetguard for the simple reason that if something does go wrong and you have a Fleetguard on, you should be covered. Your milage may vary........

 

WOW!! that is out of this world, underneath it was a wix? Makes a guy wonder what the big boys will do to get your moola doesn't it??? Thanks Infidel that is something else. Rick

 

My brother works at the fleetguard plant in TN and if the truth is known fleetguard probably makes most Wix and other brand filters out there.They make various brands at this plant and who knows what they make at other plants.

 

Oh really thats interesting......hmmm....dont remember reading that on www.fleetguard.com

 

i use ONLY wix filters, i get them from www.filter1.com

 

God help ya if you ever have any engine trouble - Im not sure if you know it or not, but that WIX filter can void your engine warranty....buyer beware....

 

Infidel's right. I left a Stratapore filter in a solvent tank overnight, and when I looked at it and the paint had come off, it said "Wix". Out of curiousity, I then left the same filter in a pail of Coca-Cola for a few hours, and when I looked at it again, the Wix brand had come off, and it said "Fram".

So I thought about selling the truck and buying a Ford.

 

too funny...... Thanks for a good laugh....

 

Ford owns Cummins.........thought I'd let you know .

 

You sure about that?
I always thought if you were required to use certain products to remain under warranty that the manufacturer had to provide them for free. I think they can recommend that you use certain products but not require them.

 

The only filter I know of that Cummins will talk warrenty voiding over is BALDWIN. I have heard from my brother-in-law and my business partner, that Cummins will definitely check into your engine very closely if you have used Baldwin filters. There have been reported cases of the filter media in the Baldwins breaking down and plugging the cooling jets in the engine similar to the Fram filter. An engine my Bro-in-law was working on had a scored cylinder and piston skirt, after they found the Baldwin on the filter housing, it was "here is your bill.. Thanks for trying our warrenty program"

IMHO, use Mopar, Fleetguard and Wix is sometimes mentioned, but I am staying at arms length from Baldwin...

J-eh

 

infedel

if your filter meets or exceeds the manufacture's requirements then it is an excepted filter.If you log on to Baldwinfilters.com you can see the same test i did and many industrial equipment owners have seen comparing these filters to stratapore.Look it over make up your own mind and ask baldwin about the claims.

 

The whole thing about Frams causing damage seems to be a fallacy also. Cummins & DC issued a TSB warning not to use Fram filters.
Fram did tests that exonerated them and threatened to sue Cummins unless they withdrew the TSB.
Cummins & Daimler Chrysler did.

I still won't use a Fram, not because they may fall apart but because they're cheap

Letter from Fram published in the August 2002, Cummins Bulletin® Technical Information

It has been brought to our attention that some DaimlerChrysler service
technicians are recommending that the FRAM PH3976 filter not be used on
Daimler Chrysler vehicles with the Cummins 5.9L Turbo Diesel engine and
that use of these filters can cause damage to the engine. Daimler Chrysler
has informed us that they released a Technical Service Bulletin to their
dealerships communicating a potential contamination issue and recommending
the use of Fleetguard manufactured filters.
FRAM has been selling PH3976 filter for this engine application since the
engine platform launch and it has maintained an extremely reliable service
record. Late in 2000, Cummins and Daimler Chrysler brought to our
attention a low incidence failure mode in their Cummins 5.9L Turbo Diesel
engine of the piston cooling nozzle plugging, resulting in engine failure.
The plugging was caused by contaminates lodging in the nozzle. The
contaminants included metal chips, calcium carbonate, polyethylene, and
styrene butadiene that are not associated with filter manufacture, and a
neoprene compound, which is used as a sealant on the tapping plate of the
filter. There were also several other engine warranty issues determined
unrelated to the piston cooling nozzle plugging that were part of the
engine failure sample. A small amount of neoprene rubber was used in the
FRAM filter as a sealant.
Throughout our investigation with Cummins & DaimlerChrysler on various
engine failures, no conclusive evidence was found to assign cause to
filters or other contamination sources. However, driven to satisfy our
customers, the FRAM engineering team made modifications to the design
eliminating the neoprene and expedited development and manufacturing to
release a revised filter model number to PH3976A. With the design change
on the PH3976A completely removing the use of neoprene, there is
absolutely no validity in comments that the Fram filter should not be used
for this application or that it may cause engine failures associated with
plugged nozzles.
The Honeywell Consumer Products Group warranty policy also protects the
consumer if it is determined that a FRAM filter is responsible for damage
to an engine due to defects in design or workmanship. This information
should be openly conveyed to our customers if they have any concerns or
apprehension about using a FRAM filter for this application.

 

Well... I guess I didn't have all the info then...

I would think that Fram would have done something to rectify the bad publicity but I still maintain my sources.

I still digress... Fleetgaurd or Mopar for me...

J-eh....