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Old 11-11-2005 | 11:28 PM
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I'm sorry you feel that way Brisco. Oh well, at least you aren't drivin a truck with a 'piece of poop engine wrapped with the greatest truck ever made' or whatever using your style of words. If you don't like it, get rid of it, someone else will appreciate it.
Old 11-12-2005 | 09:09 AM
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Might as well start a new rumor then. Dodge is keeping the Cummins. DC will sell the MBE900 to Ford to be installed in the SuperDoobies to replace the infamous Navistar 6.0. How's that??

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Old 11-12-2005 | 01:11 PM
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Isn't the infamous 6.0 Neverstart going to be replaced in '07 with a brand new from the pan up "yeah this one will work" PSD with two turbos? Even "more" complicated? Maybe the idea is that at least one turbo will be working at any given moment while the other one is on back order.
Just kidding of course. I'm sure it'll be flawless!
Old 11-12-2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Holsteinman
Dude, If the Dodge is so bad get rid of it. No one is making you keep it.
I've tried......................

OH LORD HOW I'VE TRIED!

Dodge Dealerships don't want these things back as a trade in, was even told that by Sales Manager at a large Dodge Dealership here in the Metroplex.(Looked at a couple of Sprinters) There are way more Used Dodges on Chevrolet and Ford Dealership lots than vice versa.

Wonder why..............................

Ever tried to sell a Dodge Ram yourself?

People just DO NOT want a used Dodge, much less a new one. Ever compared the Used values of Fords, Chevys, and Dodges??

Could trade it in for a loss, but I'm just using it as a work truck, so why bother.

I have never never never taken a loss on a Chevrolet ie: selling it myself or trading one in. I'm usually smarter than this when purchasing vehicles, guess I was blindsided with the "Take Life By The Horns" Bullspit when I bought this one.

Like I've said before, I'll get my wasted monies worth out of this piece of spit and then never look back.

.................and that day won't come soon enough.
Old 11-12-2005 | 10:09 PM
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woah brisco if your truck is a 04 and is as bad as you say it is i would sudjest you take a look at a lemon tree.
Old 11-13-2005 | 03:49 AM
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Brisco sounds like a diehard chevy fan just like my uncle, that is nostalgic for the good ole 60 to 79 models that would never quit. Dodge could give him a brand new charger 6.1 hemi and srt hemi truck that was flawless, and he would still run it down. My uncle was given my grandfather's 94 dodge and to hear him talk you'd think the thing was falling apart, " tha transmissions gonna fall out of it any day now, piece o &#@% dodge" yet he gets in it every day to drive his granddaughter to school and go to hardees for town gossip and breakfast, and he leaves his his 87 chevy sitting in the yard. I asked to borrow it one day before I got mine, he said "it won't make the trip, transmissions gonna come apart on ya" I told him if he didn't want me to use the truck just tell me, he didn't have make up some bs story
Old 11-13-2005 | 08:58 AM
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Brisco,
Sorry to hear that. Down here Dodges with diesels sells pretty quickly as do the Fords with the 7.3L. What's killing you is the truck is not a QC, regular cabs is a readheaded step child in the truck market.
And sometime the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence. My Sisters 2000 PS Excursion has been great, my Dads 2000 F350 CC dually is a POS. Two friends with the '99.5 PS, one with no problems and the other is on tranny #3 (only 70k miles on the clock). My buddy went through two Duramaxes, 2001 with the LB7, 2004 with the LLY and now driving a Chevy with the big block gasser. He said he will never ever buy another diesel again because of the problems he had.

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Old 11-13-2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FAY
Why did the software put this message in the incorrect place????

Obviously, there are many V engine configuration adherants who do not have a complete understanding about what makes an inline engine superior in some respects, while a V engine is better in other areas of performance. An inline engine can be made to run at high rpms similar to a V engine, but the inline engine, in that case, would have to lose some of its durability at low rpms. Engine components would have to be made lighter. The V engine during manufacturing can be strengthened to be able to withstand a somewhat high torque at low rpm, but it would then lose some ability to sustain high rpms without possible damage resulting in the engine. The V engine components would have to be made stronger and heavier to withstand a higher early torque. The unchangeable fact remains in that the inline engine can always be made the strongest if maximum low end torque is the only priority to consider. On the other hand, the V engine can never be made to rev higher than a inline engine if that is the only criteria when maximum strength to sustain torque at low rpms is theoretically or hypothetically not an issue.

If eveything is of equal strength the following is the deciding factor or the bottom line. I have said before that seven crankshaft main bearings for six connecting rods will be stronger than five crankshaft main bearings for eight connecting rods when all materials are of equal strength. There is also more tension on the V engine crankshaft rod journals with two connectiong rods on each crank throw as compared to an inline crankshaft rod journal with only one connecting rod if both types of engine produce an equal force on each power stroke.

In other word, if Cummins is replaced by a Mercedes V8 diesel, it will have the same physical limitations that the present deficient V8 diesel engines have with few exceptions. The inline engine has a lower rpm red line than a V engine if the inline engine needs a strong bottom end. The inline engine cannot have its cake and eat it too, just like the V engine cannot have as high a rpm red line if maximum bottom end strength is needed.

If V configuration would have been superior for utilizing maximum low end torque, then all transport trucks would be fitted with V configuration engines, but it is the other way around. All work units have inline engines. The 8V92 got tired looking at a grade incline, unless the rpm was kept above 2700 rpm.

The world has been brain washed to think V configuration engines are superior to inline engines because V engines provide more power in less engine length. I think it is rediculous to put a V6 gas engine in a full size pickup with a foot and a half space between the front of the engine and radiator. An inline six cylinder gas engine would have produced more power and utilized the wasted space.
Remember the cummins v8's?? I'm sure cummins would like to forget.
Old 11-13-2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Rammer64
We had a Tech Rep from Detroit Diesel come in today at work who was teaching us some new techniques for the MBE900 series Mercedes in our fleet. As we were talking, He said that the new emission standards put in place for 2007 will put the MBE900 series in the RAM pickup instead of the Cummins. It will be the OM902LA rated at 330hp and 1000 ft/lbs of torque.
The OM902LA is a stroked EGR'd version of the OM906LA.
The Cummins will no longer be an option appearently, and the Mercedes transmission will eventually be the start of a complete driveline change.
So how does this explain the contract extension that Cummins and Dodge signed together past 2010? That doesn't make sense.
Old 11-13-2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Thorpe
So how does this explain the contract extension that Cummins and Dodge signed together past 2010? That doesn't make sense.
Jack, I don't think he has an answer for that. At some point I do believe DC will offer a MB diesel engine in something to see what the consumer thinks.
Old 11-13-2005 | 05:10 PM
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They should offer a 6 or 7spd MB tranny before they worry about changing the motor that everyone loves.

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Old 11-13-2005 | 05:24 PM
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They already offer a 6spd tranny, you just have to know which one to buy
Old 11-13-2005 | 05:39 PM
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My next truck may very well be a stick, but im pretty happy with my auto so far. Back before i had this truck, you couldnt have made me believe i would own an auto for 1k dollars, but it has grown on me.

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Old 11-13-2005 | 05:44 PM
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So why does a guy like Brisco with his problems that everybody tries to be helpful with continue to harass the membership here- want a fight go to the gym, can't stand your truck take it to the auction, want help shut up and listen. PK
Old 11-13-2005 | 06:05 PM
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very well put Mr Kennedy


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