Dodge and Cummins>>>>>>>Mercedes
11-09-2005 | 02:08 PM
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From: Irricana, Alberta, Canada
I had a 1988 f150 with the I-6 300 in it and the 5 speed tranny, that was one of the best trucks i have ever owned. I put over 330,000 km's on it with out one lick of trouble. It still didn't use any oil between changes and would get 25mpg consistently. We put a limited slip rear end in it just cause we found one in great shape at the wreckers it would keep up with most 4x4's going into hunting camp, just let her paw her way through in 1st.
11-09-2005 | 02:34 PM
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With in the last month, a local Ford dealership started recieving tooling to work on CR Cummins. The tech stated it was for Cummins, I just figured that they where getting back into selling medium duty trucks again. But he keep insisting that it was for the light duty trucks. Go figure.
11-09-2005 | 04:03 PM
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Cummins made a V8 diesel for many years. The VT903M. One of the versions was a 318 HP natural later boosted to 340 turbo'd and later still a 360 hp model was brought out to sell to the Coast Guard. I have watched these engines with more than mild interest and I am not impressed. The dependability is low. Even with the low HP rating head gaskets are expendable. I believe the engine is used in amphibs and Bradley fighting vehicles in a 500 hp version as well but I do not know how dependable they are in a land vehicle. They are extremely heavy and wide. I have to agree with a truck driver buddy of mine. If it is cast iron, has 12 valves, six pistons inline and starts with the letter "C", it is a real diesel. All others are imitations. IMnotsoHO Dodge Cummins is going the way of the Dodge Hemi. 
But it will be back.
But it will be back.
11-09-2005 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty
Did they mention anything about the Detroit engines that are being tested for the pick up market? With Mercedes, Detroit and Dodge all under the same umbrella...I can see how this makes sense.
Mercedes knows how to make a good motor too.
Scotty
Mercedes knows how to make a good motor too.
Scotty
And German technology for diesels has surpassed anything out so far. I've been working on these Mercedes for the last two years, and I have to admit they have been very reliable in our fleet. I find them very open and easy to work on.
I can't say much good about the fleet of vehicles that they're in.......We,ve had a ton of complaints and problems with the trucks....mostly electrical/computer/ground problems.
And I originally quoted the new engines as OM902LA. The correct engine is the OM926LA which is the bored and stroked version of the OM902LA. The OM902LA is an EGR'd version of the OM906LA
Here is the stats from the manual for each engine
OM902LA 190hp-520lbs/ft
210hp-520lbs/ft
210hp-605lbs/ft
230hp-660lbs/ft
250hp-660lbs/ft
260hp-700lbs/ft
OM926LA 250hp-800lbs/ft
280hp-800lbs/ft
300hp-860lbs/ft
330hp-1000lbs/ft
OM906LA 190hp-520lbs/ft
210hp-520lbs/ft
210hp-605lbs/ft
230hp-660lbs/ft
250hp-660lbs/ft
260hp-700lbs/ft
260hp-800lbs/ft
280hp-800lbs/ft
300hp-860lbs/ft
The upgrades between engines rates does require some upgrades in injectors and pumps, turbos, timing etc....... but they're all factory upgrades currently available and currently done now.
11-09-2005 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckshotmckee
The Diesel in the Jeep Liberty is made by Detroit. 
Yes and no. The CRD's engine in the Liberty is made by the Italian company, VM Motori, which is owned IN PART by Detroit Diesel, a DaimlerChrysler company.
11-09-2005 | 10:42 PM
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well in 2007 My truck will be over 200k which means I still have at least 5 good years left before I need to upgrade to a 2000+ model truck so I should be set for the next 20 years before I need to buy a Merc. engine powered Dodge.
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11-09-2005 | 11:37 PM
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The Cummins will be in the 2007 Dodges. They might have other options, but the Cummins will not be gone. A friend of mine has seen a 2007 Mega Cab cab and chassis that DC was getting ready for pic's for advertisement. Guess what, it had a Cummins in it.
11-10-2005 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Boatnik
Cummins made a V8 diesel for many years. The VT903M. One of the versions was a 318 HP natural later boosted to 340 turbo'd and later still a 360 hp model was brought out to sell to the Coast Guard. I have watched these engines with more than mild interest and I am not impressed. The dependability is low. Even with the low HP rating head gaskets are expendable. I believe the engine is used in amphibs and Bradley fighting vehicles in a 500 hp version as well but I do not know how dependable they are in a land vehicle. They are extremely heavy and wide. I have to agree with a truck driver buddy of mine. If it is cast iron, has 12 valves, six pistons inline and starts with the letter "C", it is a real diesel. All others are imitations. IMnotsoHO Dodge Cummins is going the way of the Dodge Hemi. But it will be back.
But it will be back.I recall in an "intorductory" brochure for the then-new Ford Cargo trucks the option of a Perkins or a Cummins engine fitted in place of the standard Ford engine. The Standard Ford unit was a four-cylinder diesel, the Cummins and Perkins were both small V-8's. The brochure itself was a 1979 printing for the UK market. The truck was for the European market and eventually came to the US. I wonder which Cummins V-8 that was?
