The engine in my truck is very reliable but the body is literally falling off the truck. I found a 98 v10 truck and wanted to know how easy it would be to swap in my engine.

The v10 and the cummins used the same tranny so the bolt pattern should bolt right up. What about the T.C. did dodge use the same one for v10 and diesel. I would think the hardest part would be making all the guages work right. Can I use the stock fuel lines from the tank or are they diesel specific? The fuel sending unit in the tank would probably have to go though right? Or would it be able to flow diesel and give my lift pump a break? I have all the tools necessary to do this and would appreciate any advice you guys have on this.

 

You will have to swap in a diesel TC and valve body, the V10 converter is ALOT higher stall ( if it would even bolt to the cummins flex plate) and the valve body has different goveroner springs , the cummins would never rev high enough to make it shift.

Aside from that , the 98 will have an RE trans, not sure how to make a 1st gen engine work with an RE trans... the computer would have NO idea what he engine is doing, you would be WAY farther ahead to swap in your engine AND trans... the T case would have to be adapted , as your 1st gen has the front side output on the passenger side.

As far as gauges, I am not sure how to make those work either , they are all pcm controlled... I would say a custom dash with aftermarket gauges would be the ticket.

 

the v10 is a ~425cc engine, the Cummins is a ~375cc engine. we were told once it couldnt be done without lots of work. we have a v-10 donor as well but never were able to do anything with it.

Mike

 

ATS has a stand alone transmission controller.

 

I have seen Cummins/V10 swaps before....... It was a 24V swap, you would never know it happened, the whole thing looked factory. These guys swapped engine AND tranny though.

 

hmmm. then we were lied to.... i might have to start looking for a cummins with a tranny.

 

don't forget about the truck having to pass V10 emissions standards unless you have it re-titled as a diesel

 

How hard would it be to do this retitling? Or does this vary by state?

 

remember- you can't buy a new diesel car in our state. god knows what you have to go through to retitle a vehicle. i am sure ny has made it has hard as possible! call dmv in albany and see what they say.

 

I guess the only thing to worry about will be the registration isssues. I've decided that the best thing to do with the tranny will be to just keep mine. It works fine I just thought that it would be nice to have an updated unit. I couldn't believe the price for the controller from ATS, those guys are insane.

$1572.90 (stand-alone tranny controller)
+ $ 926.10 (select shift Valve body)
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no thank-you!!

My tranny would probably be better anyway with the clutches that are in it. I'll just get a nice tight converter, that is, if this swap can be done and I get the truck.
Thanks again for the input. Does anybody know about the fuel line issue?(whether they have to be changed)

 

Gene Mahoney (sp?) SledPuller on TDR has done the swap, but he can't post on this site...

shoot him an email gene@sledpuller.com

 

sigh.....thou are not worthy....cummins is 359 ci.....5.9L....the v10 was 8L...which was something like 488CI if i recall

 

Too true, Mr. T... my V-10 is 488 cubic inches (8.0 L).

The stock converter stalls at 2400 rpm, which is kind of silly considering that the gasser makes over 400 ft-lbs of torque at 1K rpm in stock form.

 

The convertor's in the Diesel and V10's are the same, as far as I know...that's why the stock convertors sucks so bad behind a diesel

Chris

 

I believe Chris is correct on this one.

Also, If you have any friends in a midwestern state that is more lenient on titles and emissions, you could sell them the vehicle, let them retitle it, then sell it back to you. It shouldn't be a very difficult process that way.