Diesel run away?
09-27-2005 | 11:41 AM
#31
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From: Red Deer, Alberta Canada
Well I know that SOP for most diesel mechanics is to "book" the intake whenever work on the governor is done or if major work is done to the intake/turbo. Same with MDKRam when he worked on my father-in-laws truck, we had a small board to cover the intake to the turbo on first start up.
I think that is good practice for anyone working on the GSK kits or the like.
My PAS is good security too, at the airport I just trip the valve closed and not many would know how to reset it. That truck is goin nowhere.
I think that is good practice for anyone working on the GSK kits or the like.
My PAS is good security too, at the airport I just trip the valve closed and not many would know how to reset it. That truck is goin nowhere.
09-27-2005 | 02:21 PM
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From: Guy, TX
Originally Posted by walexa
Several years ago a guy working for the local trucking company......can't think of the name right now.......was working on a big rig and it started running away with him.......quickly he hopped his butt onto the air intake and the suction was so strong that it did severe colon/intestinal damage. It really messed him up. I believe he still works there, but he walks hunched over from whatever damage was done to him. Moral of the story, be careful what you try to do to stop a runaway.
Waylan
Waylan
I thought of using a small pressurized container filled with either CO2 or N2 located under the hood and have a NOS soledoid to dump it into the intake in case of emergency...???
09-27-2005 | 02:24 PM
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From: dfw texas
i had a friend that bought a wore out 6.2 truck. it had a full banks turbo set up on it that was worth more than the truck was. so he pulled it all off and had the intake off, the fuel pump off and in parts. for some reason he hit the starter to turn the motor over. it fired up and took off. he said he figured it fired up on the oil from the wore out cylinders and pistons. he was runing all around his shop trying to figure out how to kill it. he finally used a 1x4 on one side and a pice of wood on the other. he said he never had heard so much noise.
09-27-2005 | 11:14 PM
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From: stupid ohio
Originally Posted by Lil Dog
Firstly I am surprised you would need one to drag race, but thats the rules I guess.
Mine is a spring loaded butterfly valve and it mounts just before the intake horn. They just cut about 3-4" out of the intercooler pipe and place it in the line. I will shoot some photos today if I can an put them in my gallery.
Depending on your mods, they have different diameter units for all intake systems, so if you have fabbed up an aftermarket intake horn with a larger diameter line, they should be able to have one.
Cost...they aren't peanuts. My electric solenoid actuated one was around $1000 CAD (~$840 US). The cable pull type ones are around $700 CAD(~$585 US).
Distribution... I am not sure as this company is only about 1 hour north of me. I would crack the yellow pages and find a truck outfitter (flat decks, pickers, winches, tow trucks etc.) as they should carry that sort of thing. If not, just call the boys at Roda and they should be able to help you.
PM me if you need more info...
Mine is a spring loaded butterfly valve and it mounts just before the intake horn. They just cut about 3-4" out of the intercooler pipe and place it in the line. I will shoot some photos today if I can an put them in my gallery.
Depending on your mods, they have different diameter units for all intake systems, so if you have fabbed up an aftermarket intake horn with a larger diameter line, they should be able to have one.
Cost...they aren't peanuts. My electric solenoid actuated one was around $1000 CAD (~$840 US). The cable pull type ones are around $700 CAD(~$585 US).
Distribution... I am not sure as this company is only about 1 hour north of me. I would crack the yellow pages and find a truck outfitter (flat decks, pickers, winches, tow trucks etc.) as they should carry that sort of thing. If not, just call the boys at Roda and they should be able to help you.
PM me if you need more info...
I wouldn't think you'd need on either, especially one activated from the REAR of the vehicle.
I emailed them to see if/where they were distributed in the US. I also am sending an email to Eric McBride to see if the DHRA can work out a deal with them for referring all their members. I know we get a discount with Hoosier... why not with the safety equipment.
brandon.
09-28-2005 | 09:59 AM
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From: Oklahoma
at an old job i had we had to mow the grass. The boss provided a P.O.S. push mower that would never run very good. I flooded the carb w/ starting fluid (mostly ether) 
. That thing screamed for a while. Then it died and never would restart. 
P.S. why does starting fluid not work very good in my tater gun?
. That thing screamed for a while. Then it died and never would restart. P.S. why does starting fluid not work very good in my tater gun?
09-28-2005 | 03:36 PM
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From: East Central OK
Originally Posted by Saxet Nomad
I thought of using a small pressurized container filled with either CO2 or N2 located under the hood and have a NOS soledoid to dump it into the intake in case of emergency...???
Not too small. You have to remember that the engine is a large air pump and once it gets to higher RPM, it's moving a lot of air. Too small a container and the engine may pump it all thru and then refire on the fuel if it's still turning over. Have to have a big enough cylinder to displace the oxygen until the engine stops turning.
The other problem is that putting that type of cold into a hot engine in that large a volume will usually crack something.
09-30-2005 | 03:10 AM
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From: CA
Runaway and "DOA"
As Admin indicated - gasoline fumes = VERY bad deal !!
About 1975 - Driver filling his double (gas) tanker at Chevron
Bulk Facility in Huntington Beach, CA. Left the (diesel) engine
running while tank was being filled, walked over to talk to the
guy in the control booth. [Double no-no, an invitation to "Murphy"]
Somehow, the overflow shut-off failed, causing gas to spill. Fumes
caused engine to run away. Driver ran to rig to shut it down -
- we will never know HOW he planned to shut it down!
Big boom. Bigger fire!
Guy in booth survived, driver didn't.
JC [HBFD, ret. - was there . . . . for the fire part]
About 1975 - Driver filling his double (gas) tanker at Chevron
Bulk Facility in Huntington Beach, CA. Left the (diesel) engine
running while tank was being filled, walked over to talk to the
guy in the control booth. [Double no-no, an invitation to "Murphy"]
Somehow, the overflow shut-off failed, causing gas to spill. Fumes
caused engine to run away. Driver ran to rig to shut it down -
- we will never know HOW he planned to shut it down!
Big boom. Bigger fire!
Guy in booth survived, driver didn't.
JC [HBFD, ret. - was there . . . . for the fire part]
10-04-2005 | 10:26 AM
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I am doing some research on this. Can someone tell me of some petrochemical plants in Texas that require a positive air intake shutoff. I need to see how it is written up in their procedures. I will be greatful for any information on this
Thanks
Frank
Thanks
Frank
10-04-2005 | 08:53 PM
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Any body?? I called a couple of contractors we use and they have never heard of a pas. Tried searching the internet and mostly find info on Canadian industry. Canadians more safe? If any body knows of any petrochemical plants in Texas that requires this device please let me know.
