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Old 06-04-2007 | 07:43 PM
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Cummins VS. Powerstroke!!!

I always have been and will be a cummins enthusiasts, but Im just curious. Is it possible to get the torque and hp from the powerstoke that can be achieved from a cummins? Im gonna say no, but what do you guys say???
Old 06-04-2007 | 07:51 PM
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There was a pulling "powerstroke" in the open class that was pretty impressive last year, but they blew it up. It costs a LOT of money to get any power out of one though, and most parts are one off custom deals. they said the motor in the ford costs 150k dollars. It had a v-8 style p-pump and basically everything on it was custom made. So i guess what im saying is that anything is possible with enough money, but in general, no the powerstrokes wont make the power a cummins will.

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Old 06-04-2007 | 08:04 PM
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hehe i heard about something secret comin out soon :-P supposed to be VERY promising for the 7.3's and that's using the HEUI fuel system... which apparently nobody understood how it even works till now.. and the guy still barely has a clue haha
Old 06-04-2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cumminsdriver635
There was a pulling "powerstroke" in the open class that was pretty impressive last year, but they blew it up. It costs a LOT of money to get any power out of one though, and most parts are one off custom deals. they said the motor in the ford costs 150k dollars. It had a v-8 style p-pump and basically everything on it was custom made. So i guess what im saying is that anything is possible with enough money, but in general, no the powerstrokes wont make the power a cummins will.

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Sure it wasn't a DT466? I've heard of 1 or 2 on the pulling circuts that had a P pump or similar conversion done on it.



While I think the PSD is a good engine and certainly has its place its certainly not capable of what a 12V can do right now. Maybe one day it'll run neck and neck, but its not now. I wanted more power from my PSD, but after weighing the costs of what I'd have to invest to get there and some of the possible reliability issues that come from a 400-450hp engine I decided to invest in a 12V.

For me its a classic case of I like the Cummins engine, but don't really like the wrapper. I like the Ford wrapper, but I'm somewhat on the fence about the engine. This is talking about 7.3L engines, I won't comment on the 6.ohno.
Old 06-04-2007 | 08:20 PM
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Sure it wasn't a DT466? I've heard of 1 or 2 on the pulling circuts that had a P pump or similar conversion done on it.



While I think the PSD is a good engine and certainly has its place its certainly not capable of what a 12V can do right now. Maybe one day it'll run neck and neck, but its not now. I wanted more power from my PSD, but after weighing the costs of what I'd have to invest to get there and some of the possible reliability issues that come from a 400-450hp engine I decided to invest in a 12V.

For me its a classic case of I like the Cummins engine, but don't really like the wrapper. I like the Ford wrapper, but I'm somewhat on the fence about the engine. This is talking about 7.3L engines, I won't comment on the 6.ohno.
yeah the 6.0 is a disaster... lol jk casue honestly only the 03/04's has issues...
Old 06-04-2007 | 08:46 PM
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yeah the 6.0 was a huge disaster.
There ya go, fixed it for ya...
Old 06-04-2007 | 08:58 PM
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There ya go, fixed it for ya...
what was i thinking saying something good about a ford on a dodge forum
Old 06-04-2007 | 09:52 PM
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there is some sort of new body ford out there..ive seen this thing...it has a big pipe out the hood and a lil one as well...thats the first giveaway....heard soemthign about it being a 7.3...heavily modded with what i heard was a "mack V8 pump" whatever that means....

oh and the answer to your question is no....however the dmaxes can handle some very high hp numbers
Old 06-05-2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by glasseater
what was i thinking saying something good about a ford on a dodge forum
I know...thats why I fixed it
Old 06-05-2007 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wthomps
Sure it wasn't a DT466? I've heard of 1 or 2 on the pulling circuts that had a P pump or similar conversion done on it.
I've seen one with a DT466, big set of twins, radiator in the back, etc... P-pump on a DT466 is a pretty standard item, it either had that or the early ones had the type 100 bosch distributor pump.

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heard soemthign about it being a 7.3...heavily modded with what i heard was a "mack V8 pump" whatever that means....
Injection pump off a Mack 998 cubic inch V-8. Usually see a few of those in the big rig pulling circuits. I have one sitting at home, not a little pump by any means.
Old 06-05-2007 | 07:46 PM
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lol jk casue honestly only the 03/04's has issues...



I wish that was the case. All the 6.0 service trucks and rental trucks we have had at work have had issues, though some less than others. I'm hoping the 2 new 07s we just bought have less problems. At least now we're looking to go with F650s next year possibly, so that means a Cummins or Cat.
Old 06-05-2007 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mr T
there is some sort of new body ford out there..ive seen this thing...it has a big pipe out the hood and a lil one as well...thats the first giveaway....heard soemthign about it being a 7.3...heavily modded with what i heard was a "mack V8 pump" whatever that means....

oh and the answer to your question is no....however the dmaxes can handle some very high hp numbers
Yep you are right. It is a powerstroke with a Mack V-8 p-pump. It was a good running truck till they blew it up. It is not a DT466 though!

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Old 06-05-2007 | 11:32 PM
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will a power stroke make as power as a cummins yea i know a few that do but they are not as reliable and either way ive never seen anybody put a psd in a dodge!!!
Old 06-06-2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stuckey200224
will a power stroke make as power as a cummins yea i know a few that do but they are not as reliable and either way ive never seen anybody put a psd in a dodge!!!
i wanna do that just that i can be "different"
Old 06-06-2007 | 10:19 PM
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i wanna do that just that i can be "different"
I would like to see that in person.. I can just see it ---- The very first Dodge-PSD website starts, 1 member with 2000 posts...
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