Buying My First Diesel, Couple ???????
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Buying My First Diesel, Couple ???????
Hello, new memeber, so please bare with me....
buying my first diesel.
New, 2006, 3/4ton, dodge 4x4, slt, 3.73 gear ratio, not sure on manual or auto, but will be extended cab short box.
I plan on using it for a daily driver 20 miles 1 way, 55mph roads, 200 miles a week I should average. Will use the wifes car on the weekends and for long trips.
What can I expect for mpg with a rig like this.
What should I expect to pay with a msrp of around $40,000.
Thanks for any help.
buying my first diesel.
New, 2006, 3/4ton, dodge 4x4, slt, 3.73 gear ratio, not sure on manual or auto, but will be extended cab short box.
I plan on using it for a daily driver 20 miles 1 way, 55mph roads, 200 miles a week I should average. Will use the wifes car on the weekends and for long trips.
What can I expect for mpg with a rig like this.
What should I expect to pay with a msrp of around $40,000.
Thanks for any help.
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"Mileage will vary" is probably the answer that you are going to get on that one, but seems like the reports are anywhere between about 16-19 from what I've read. That's usually better with a manual than the auto, and will improve as the engine gets broken in. I prefer the manual anyway, and there are less reports of issues with those than the autos on the older ones. Not real familiar with the newer autos.
If I might make a suggestion though, from what you say you are only looking to put about 11K miles on a year. Have you thought about looking at a program vehicle or a "slightly" used (say 2005) with low miles? You still get the warranty without taking the huge hit on depreciation.
Anyway, there have been reports of folks getting away for around $30K. I wouldn't expect yours to be much higher than that with all of the incentives flying around. Good luck, you'll love these trucks.
If I might make a suggestion though, from what you say you are only looking to put about 11K miles on a year. Have you thought about looking at a program vehicle or a "slightly" used (say 2005) with low miles? You still get the warranty without taking the huge hit on depreciation.
Anyway, there have been reports of folks getting away for around $30K. I wouldn't expect yours to be much higher than that with all of the incentives flying around. Good luck, you'll love these trucks.
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should get about 17 to 20 on the hwy. Should pay between 30 and 33k. should take it on the long weekend trips too!! Because, at 200 miles a week it may take you a year or more to get the 20 mpg (break in).
I'm thinkin' you have more than driving to work on the hwy planned if your gonna spend 30+ on a 4x4 CTD. (you can tell us we won't tell your wife)
Dale
I'm thinkin' you have more than driving to work on the hwy planned if your gonna spend 30+ on a 4x4 CTD. (you can tell us we won't tell your wife)
Dale
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Unless you are going to tow heavy and often, I would get the automatic transmission (48RE) with 3.73 gears.
The 6 speed (g56) seems to be a great transmission and I haven't heard of any failures, but they are geared WAY to low for empty highway driving. 70mph will translate into about 2400 rpms or so. Kinda high imo.
The 6 speed (g56) seems to be a great transmission and I haven't heard of any failures, but they are geared WAY to low for empty highway driving. 70mph will translate into about 2400 rpms or so. Kinda high imo.
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For the usage you outlined here I see a 1/2 ton gas 4X2. Save your money!
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Originally Posted by WEATHERBY460
Hello, new memeber, so please bare with me....
buying my first diesel.
New, 2006, 3/4ton, dodge 4x4, slt, 3.73 gear ratio, not sure on manual or auto, but will be extended cab short box.
I plan on using it for a daily driver 20 miles 1 way, 55mph roads, 200 miles a week I should average. Will use the wifes car on the weekends and for long trips.
What can I expect for mpg with a rig like this.
What should I expect to pay with a msrp of around $40,000.
Thanks for any help.
buying my first diesel.
New, 2006, 3/4ton, dodge 4x4, slt, 3.73 gear ratio, not sure on manual or auto, but will be extended cab short box.
I plan on using it for a daily driver 20 miles 1 way, 55mph roads, 200 miles a week I should average. Will use the wifes car on the weekends and for long trips.
What can I expect for mpg with a rig like this.
What should I expect to pay with a msrp of around $40,000.
Thanks for any help.
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I would just ask to make sure that you know about the options available used, however. If you're a car guy and want to do any modifications to the truck, there's no reason why not to get something a few years old, $10,000 less expensive and just as reliable, take the saved money and make something wicked. What does $10,000 in bomb money get you in a 1997? It's not like a Second Generation Cummins with 150,000 miles is less reliable than a new Cummins, you just don't get a warranty. Heck, even a First Generation Cummins with 300,000 miles is more reliable than a new Ford.
Of course, if you want the luxury of a new vehicle and warranty, more power to you. Just be sure to consider the reliability and potential fun to be had with a used Cummins.
Dude, he wants a Cummins. Not gas. Cummins. The only use that outlines gas is parts washing. Just about anything, however, can outline Cummins.
Of course, if you want the luxury of a new vehicle and warranty, more power to you. Just be sure to consider the reliability and potential fun to be had with a used Cummins.
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For the usage you outlined here I see a 1/2 ton gas 4X2. Save your money!
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Weatherby460 - Although a lot of folks swear by the manual trans, I bought the auto with 2wd and then later had second thoughts about it. I then went a test drove a 4x4 with the 6 speed. All I can say "what good is first gear?" It's so low!!" Go drive both and see what fits your wants and needs. I ended up with an ATS tranny to hold up with the mods I have and haven't regretted it at all, mostly because driving the manual was way too slow for my intended purposes . I get 18-19 mpg overall unless I'm sitting in heavy traffic alot where it drops to 16-17. Driving less than 75mph steady I routinely get in the low 20-22mpg. I hope this helps - but still you need to go drive both before you decide.
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have driven both a little.....................manual just seems too slow for me, like i have been reading, i need 4wd because i will be in snow with it and i hunt and need it to get thru the woods and fields.
Does the auto tend to get better fuel miliage?
I am hoping next month dealers start dropping the prices a little better, i really don't want to spend over $32,000.
As far as used, it seems like they hold their value too much to justify going that way, but I will keep looking.
Thanks.
Does the auto tend to get better fuel miliage?
I am hoping next month dealers start dropping the prices a little better, i really don't want to spend over $32,000.
As far as used, it seems like they hold their value too much to justify going that way, but I will keep looking.
Thanks.
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I have 06, 4X4 2500, 4 door, short bed 373 gears and paid $34,000. I only got about 14 mpg to start with and was very disapointed. I have 7000 miles and now get 17 to 18 mpg. It is gettiing better all the time. Should top out at about 20 to 21 mpg at 30,000 I think. The Dodge is shorter than the Fords or Chevs.........think 4 door..that storage area and passenger seating is much better and I have had both!
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Originally Posted by WEATHERBY460
have driven both a little.....................manual just seems too slow for me, like i have been reading, i need 4wd because i will be in snow with it and i hunt and need it to get thru the woods and fields.
Does the auto tend to get better fuel miliage?
I am hoping next month dealers start dropping the prices a little better, i really don't want to spend over $32,000.
As far as used, it seems like they hold their value too much to justify going that way, but I will keep looking.
Thanks.
Does the auto tend to get better fuel miliage?
I am hoping next month dealers start dropping the prices a little better, i really don't want to spend over $32,000.
As far as used, it seems like they hold their value too much to justify going that way, but I will keep looking.
Thanks.
They have one right now for 33k. Thats only $20 in monthly payment, or if you pay cash whats another grand when you've spent 32k already?
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You say now that you'll drive the wifes car on the weekends......I said I would drive mine on the weekends and once in awhile up to work. Now, reality has set in.....I drive 2-3 times during the week and about the only thing I drive the weekends, unless the whole family wants to go out, then we hop in the wifes explorer and she drives!! Most I have driven that is move it from in front of the shop under a shade tree and then back again, and that's been about the last 4 months!! You'll love it and when your in the wifes car you'll be thinking about how you wish you were perched on top of that Cummins!! At least I do, but I have been called weird to!
It's good to hear your looking at Dodge and Cummins and not brand X though!!
It's good to hear your looking at Dodge and Cummins and not brand X though!!
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nothing against ford or the gm's, but gm will have a new body style for 07, so an 06 will be outdated in a few months, and for ford, I just am not a ford guy, also, the cummins is a proven engine, it may lack power on paper compared to the other two, but I am sure it can hold its own.
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Actually it doesnt lack power on paper compared to the other 2 and you will also be able to use that power without blowing your engine up after 65,000 miles. bottom line, you CANNOT compare the Cummins to the other so-called diesels. The Cummins engines are simply in a league of their own. Seems like you really are the newbie you claim to be...Hopefully you will buy one and that will all change.
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I would just ask to make sure that you know about the options available used, however. If you're a car guy and want to do any modifications to the truck, there's no reason why not to get something a few years old, $10,000 less expensive and just as reliable, take the saved money and make something wicked. What does $10,000 in bomb money get you in a 1997? It's not like a Second Generation Cummins with 150,000 miles is less reliable than a new Cummins, you just don't get a warranty. Heck, even a First Generation Cummins with 300,000 miles is more reliable than a new Ford.
Of course, if you want the luxury of a new vehicle and warranty, more power to you. Just be sure to consider the reliability and potential fun to be had with a used Cummins.
Dude, he wants a Cummins. Not gas. Cummins. The only use that outlines gas is parts washing. Just about anything, however, can outline Cummins.
Of course, if you want the luxury of a new vehicle and warranty, more power to you. Just be sure to consider the reliability and potential fun to be had with a used Cummins.
Dude, he wants a Cummins. Not gas. Cummins. The only use that outlines gas is parts washing. Just about anything, however, can outline Cummins.
Mike
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