th_racer
when you had the head trouble did you radiator get filled up with oil,Is there anything to watch out for when pulling the heads,where is the best place to get a headset,thanx

 

Yes it did,sometimes, but first thing to check is oil cooler like stated before if it has it. Some have it in the radiator, It will have oil lines to it. Some have a long round tube down the side of the block,the one on the side of the block has o rings that seal it to the block that could be bad, either one probably needs to come off and get a pressure check by radiator shop , best place to get gaskets is from your CASEIH dealer, If you don't have a local dealer( cngco.com ) will send em to you .nothing really tough about takin heads off, Terry

 

no oil cooler so ill look for the round tube down the side of the block,thanx

 

The other thing to watch for, these motors are really bad for cavitation. Especially around the sealing area where the sleeves seal to the block....... Another potential threat.

I think you are starting in the right place by pulling the pan, (not a big deal easy to get at, just HEAVY!! they are cast)

Once the system is pressurised (you'll probably first have to seal about 25 minute collant leaks you never knew erxisted ) you may be able to see a drip of coolant form on the end of a rod or something as it runs down from whereever the leak is from, this will give you an indication of which area of the engine the problem is coming from.

One good thing is it's putting oil in the water not the other way around, I'd much prefer to have that problem than the other waya round.

 

Hey tool I just drained the water out of the block from the hose thats close the the clutch pedal ,it runs down from that square pipe that runs to the thermostat housing then down to an external block heater.I drained out 5 gallons and there is no more than an ounce of oil in it and it might be stop leak.I probably didnt run it the other day long enough to open the thermostat..Thats really got me wondering if the radiator was poured full of oil to store it.What do you think

 

Shoot, run it and see what happens to your oil level,never know might get lucky

 

I think I will do that tommorow and see what happens,man that would be a relief

 

does this motor have sleeves? i have seen a motor that has not been run in awhile have the O-rings go bad on the sleeves and cause problems. hope you can figure it out without damaging the motor. good luck

 

I dont know on the sleeves,I guess Ill just have to pull the heads on this thing

 

In my earlier post I missed the gray slime bit. If the engine is a Detroit, it has sleeves and the sleeve seals may very well be the problem. He does not give the size but obviously it as a v6 and Detroit made them in 6-53, 6-71, and 6-92. The engine is swapping oil and water both ways, so is something like the liner seals.

 

The motor is a straight 6 ,Im not sure if its a detroit ,it does have a case eagle cast in the block.The water isnt getting into the oil any that I can tell.

 

I will put up some pics of the thing whenever they approve the pictures.

 

Nope, not a detroit, its a 401 c.i. case motor, and yes it has sleeves, but with no more oil then you found , I think i would run it for a while before I tore into it and at least get the motor warm, It will either make the leak stop or it will show you really well where its coming from as the cast iron moves.

 

Here are the pics of it,I wonder if that water manifold could get oil in it somehow

 

scratch everything is said, I know nothing about a Case motor. He said heads, plural, so thought v6.