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Old 06-28-2007 | 10:55 AM
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2007 Heavy Duty Shootout

Gas and Diesel, 6.7 vs 6.4 vs Duramax
V10 vs Hemi, vs 6.0L Vortec

7% grade, 15% grade, towing 10,500#

I can't wait for parts 2 and 3.

** I found a mistake as well. The GVWR listed for the 3500 QC Dually Dodge is wrong. They list it as 10,100# which is the GVWR for a 3500 SRW. The 3500 Dually is 12,200#. The Ford guys over at RV.net say the F350 GVWR is wrong too.

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2007...shootout1.html
Old 06-28-2007 | 11:07 AM
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Reading it now, looks good.

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I'm gonna edit this as I read it.

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When we started it up, the Ram visibly shivered from all of the torque as the Cummins cranked over.
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No offence to dmax owners, but this this is UGLY.



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The F-450 had the same 6.4-liter PSD as the F-350, but due to the truck’s very low final drive ratio, power was detuned to 325-horsepower and 600 lbs-ft of torque. This is a new power management approach from Ford that we believe is used to increase engine life.

LOLOLOL

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Why couldn't they have just finished it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I'll have to wait a few more weeks to see it all finished.
Old 06-28-2007 | 01:30 PM
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yea, i used to like Chevy's styling, but that thing is pretty ugly. That bumper is definently not helping.
Old 06-28-2007 | 01:34 PM
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And I guess first impressions aren't always the best, since they gave the 6.0 the best rating when they did this test 5 years ago.
Old 06-28-2007 | 01:52 PM
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The link isn't working.

No offence to dmax owners, but this this is UGLY.
I think they're butt-ugly too.
Old 06-28-2007 | 03:26 PM
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The Fords are a lot uglier imo than the GMs.
Old 06-28-2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselfuelonly
Reading it now, looks good.

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I'm gonna edit this as I read it.

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No offence to dmax owners, but this this is UGLY.



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The F-450 had the same 6.4-liter PSD as the F-350, but due to the truck’s very low final drive ratio, power was detuned to 325-horsepower and 600 lbs-ft of torque. This is a new power management approach from Ford that we believe is used to increase engine life.

LOLOLOL

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Why couldn't they have just finished it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I'll have to wait a few more weeks to see it all finished.
I wonder if that is the same excuse DC used when detuning the 6.7 for the cab and chassis.
Old 06-28-2007 | 04:14 PM
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the links past page 1 don't work
Old 06-28-2007 | 06:27 PM
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the links past page 1 don't work
I think we just crashed their server, just keep trying- I finally got them to load.
Old 06-28-2007 | 09:11 PM
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I cant stand the tailpipe on the Chubbys. I would hang that sucker on something in no time. It looks ok in that pic but the ones I see around have this god awful piece of pipe hangin' out the back.
Old 06-28-2007 | 09:24 PM
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Well today I went out and test drove a new 6.7L CTD, fully loaded, laramie quad cab 4x4 minus the navigation system. I was very impressed with the power, the tranny was very nice along with the selectable gear deal (nothing new I know but still neat the way Dodge set it up). It was a hair laggy on the bottom but the turbo took a fraction of a second to spool up and take off. Also, it was QUIET! I'm used to my straight piped 12v and this thing was whisper quiet. Overall I was very impressed with the 6.7, nothing wrong with it in my eyes (besides the new emissions equipment )

Now if I could only get my old man to trade his 04' Nissan Titan off .


But back on topic, this review seems to be fairly legit, trying to make it as fair as possible. It'll interesting to see how the trucks stack up.
Old 06-29-2007 | 01:51 AM
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http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/2007...shootout4.html


Why couldn't they just get a Dodge Cummins with the 3.73 gears, like both of the other diesels? Why put in a Dodge with 4.10s? Geesh! IF they are trying to make it as even across the board as possible....that is a really simple and no brainer thing IMO.
Old 06-29-2007 | 07:47 AM
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The Fords are a lot uglier imo than the GMs.
Amen Brother!! I think GM & Ford are in a frantic race to design and build the ugliest truck possible & who ever sells the most ugly trucks wins a kewpie doll.
Old 06-29-2007 | 08:54 AM
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Trying to keep it even as possible, eh? Why do both the Dodge and GM have V8 gas engines and they put a Ford in there with a V10?

Does Ford not offer a V8 gas engine in their heavy duty trucks? Or are they just setting Ford up to win again like last year?
Old 06-29-2007 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by doomgaze
Trying to keep it even as possible, eh? Why do both the Dodge and GM have V8 gas engines and they put a Ford in there with a V10?

Does Ford not offer a V8 gas engine in their heavy duty trucks? Or are they just setting Ford up to win again like last year?
Good point, maybe the guys doing the testing realized that the 5.4 V8 is gutless as can be and gave Ford a fair chance .

But you're right, they should have gotten a truck with the 5.4 to make it equal.


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