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Old 09-03-2004 | 11:48 PM
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2007 Cummins?

Any word out on what DCX/Cummins has in plans for 2007? This engine seems to be VERY secretive. The rumors seem to be that Ford is planning a 6.4L version of the PowerStroke, possibly with twin turbo's. I've seen some numbers mentioned at 350hp and 650 ft/lb torque. I'd like to know what Cummins is crafting up over there. I wonder if they will still stay with 5.9L like they have in the previous two generations, or if they will finally go with something larger.
Old 09-04-2004 | 06:59 AM
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I think they will stay with the 5.9L but watch out for a Cummins V6 Diesel in a Japanese truck.
Old 09-04-2004 | 10:17 AM
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Cummins has recently released updated QSB 6.7L and 4.5L diesel engines for agricultural use (AGCO uses them). Apparently these are just bored out or stroked versions of the 5.9L and 3.9L ISB engines. I am sure they will make there way into the Dodge pickup very soon. If fact, according to rumors on the allpar.com site, there already is an engine code for a 6.7L HO Cummins Turbo Diesel "ETJ". Have a look...

http://www.allpar.com/forums/lofiver...hp/t39390.html
Old 09-04-2004 | 05:34 PM
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mmm, 6.7L......*wipes drool from side of mouth*. Now we are talking. Wonder what the numbers (HP/Torque) will be on that version.
Old 09-04-2004 | 08:32 PM
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so all you guys are talking about bigger better motors, thats all good but what are they gona do with the our por old trannys. they might need to just drop the tranny from a semi and hook it up to our trucks. dont get me wrong i like more power but how they gona get it to the ground?

chris
Old 09-04-2004 | 08:53 PM
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What will the mileage be? People upset with the 325/600 will pass out!
Old 09-05-2004 | 08:18 AM
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Maybe boring out the 5.9 will lighten it up a bit. They can make up the weight difference by beefing up the tranny. If anything, maybe the truck will have a better cent of gravity.
Old 09-05-2004 | 08:24 AM
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6.7L, hmmmmmm, roadranger, airlocker, airride seat...Think I'd just have to upgrade the old 98. Wonder if I need to get on the list now?

Ahhh dreams

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Old 09-05-2004 | 01:29 PM
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Pure speculation here. I wouldn't mind seeing two engines offered. One for power and one for fuel economy. The economy model would be for people who don't need the towing power. I am thinking sort of like the Sprinter vans. They have similar GVWR compared to 3/4 ton and heavy 3/4 ton truck, are said to get up to 25mpg. This may be because of there low weight though, about 4500 curb.
Old 09-05-2004 | 02:10 PM
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I don't think th 6.7L is an option, it has a fully structural block, meaning heavy! And this structural block is also not suited as well to a vehicle, It's just bigger.

I think it is a farther step backwards, at least at 150hp like we have in our new AGCO Tractors, Rotary Pump, not the Good ol' P-7100. Not that it's not good, but just not better.

It is still a good engine, we've got 4 out right now, and not a single engine problem yet (which is good, because Cummins in our area Stinks, and we aren't allowed to work on these engines.)

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Old 09-06-2004 | 12:30 AM
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You cant stroke a 5.9 because of the piston to valve/head clearances. at least not to a 6.7L or not without alot of other modifications.
Old 09-06-2004 | 09:06 AM
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Talking vicious cycle...

I think we should just buy class 8 rigs and make them our daily drivers and tow our jet-skis with them. What's the biggest engine we can get in a class 8? Then we take that engine, bomb it. And then we can talk about when they're going to come out with a bigger and more powerful engines ... because the current ones just don't quite get the job done any more. We can even discuss when the sleepers will get bigger, because hey, we've just had a 2nd kid! Its a never ending process!
Old 09-06-2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by 4doogie
so all you guys are talking about bigger better motors, thats all good but what are they gona do with the our por old trannys. they might need to just drop the tranny from a semi and hook it up to our trucks. dont get me wrong i like more power but how they gona get it to the ground?

chris
Want to know what the next tranny will be to handle the added hp & torque.
Check out this thread.http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=110818
Old 09-06-2004 | 08:51 PM
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Re: vicious cycle...

Originally posted by JyRO
I think we should just buy class 8 rigs and make them our daily drivers and tow our jet-skis with them. What's the biggest engine we can get in a class 8? Then we take that engine, bomb it. And then we can talk about when they're going to come out with a bigger and more powerful engines ... because the current ones just don't quite get the job done any more. We can even discuss when the sleepers will get bigger, because hey, we've just had a 2nd kid! Its a never ending process!
I believe the biggest you can get now is the Cummins ISX 15L.
Old 09-07-2004 | 12:53 AM
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My dealer says you'll be able to choose between a Cummins or Mercedes engine. Don't know how true it is.
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