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Old 10-31-2007 | 04:16 PM
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12V cummins into a '95 K2500 Chevy

I have a question, I know other people have put a 12V cummins into the OBS chevys like mine a 1995 3/4 ton 4x4 with a tired ole 6.5L turbo diesel and the 4L80 auto. The question is, can i safely and reliably drive the 12V cummins in this truck without swapping out the front end to a solid front axle? They say the extra weight of the Cummins over the 6.5 (like 600lbs) is that it isnt a good idea to keep the independent front suspension.... Has anyone else been able to retain the IFS and are happy with it??
Old 10-31-2007 | 04:52 PM
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Not too sure about this swap - I've seen a few Cummins powered Chevy's out there. The P-pumped 5.9L Cummins weighs right around 1250lbs. At least you're aware of this weight differential.
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:13 PM
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there was a pic in a recent diesel power mag- of an early 90's model chevy that had a cummins in it-but i believe the owner swap in a solid front axle, though.
Old 10-31-2007 | 06:19 PM
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Got a '66 Chev short bed awaiting restoration. Its go the original 235 but am dreaming about slipping a 5.9 in there, Allison automatic, Dana 60 rear, add AC, beef up the front end and enjoy it. One day..........................
Old 10-31-2007 | 07:14 PM
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I would also like to know how to make it work with IFS. IFS can handle quite a bit of weight on the frontend (such as a snowplow), because the torsion bars can be adjusted. The problem is that IFS doesn't allow very much room for the tall engine. Someone on my college campus had an early-mid 90s Chevy dually with a Cummins, but I think that it was a 2wd.
Old 10-31-2007 | 07:18 PM
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I would also like to know how to make it work with IFS. IFS can handle quite a bit of weight on the frontend (such as a snowplow), because the torsion bars can be adjusted. The problem is that IFS doesn't allow very much room for the tall engine. Someone on my college campus had an early-mid 90s Chevy dually with a Cummins, but I think that it was a 2wd.
Body lift will do wonders for room under there.
Old 10-31-2007 | 08:32 PM
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Yeah its not really the room im concerned about, I can always make or buy a cowl hood or something of that sort, But MJdiesel brought a good point talkin about the snowplow hangin off the front, In the winter i see all sorts of IFS chevys drivin around with these big ole plows bouncing off the front of them, Anyone know how much a 7' or 8' plow weighs? plus all hook-ups of course...
Old 10-31-2007 | 08:36 PM
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a plow can weigt anywhere from 600 to 1000 pounds-depending on type. cheapest 7 footer will weight the less. top of the line 9 footer will weight a 1000 pounds, if not a tad bit more.
Old 10-31-2007 | 08:41 PM
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ok, so say you have a 600lb plow hangin off the front with the farthest point of the plow bein a few feet from the hook-up point, so actually when its raised its going to act as a lever and put more strain on the front end as opposed to puttin an extra 600 lbs directly over or even a little bit slightly behind the center of the front driveline.... So that would make me think if people can hang a big ole plow off the front of their truck, why the heck cant I throw a cummins in the ole girl????
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:14 PM
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Body lift will do wonders for room under there.
A body lift would be a last resort for me. A cowl hood would be OK.
Old 10-31-2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDiesel396
ok, so say you have a 600lb plow hangin off the front with the farthest point of the plow bein a few feet from the hook-up point, so actually when its raised its going to act as a lever and put more strain on the front end as opposed to puttin an extra 600 lbs directly over or even a little bit slightly behind the center of the front driveline.... So that would make me think if people can hang a big ole plow off the front of their truck, why the heck cant I throw a cummins in the ole girl????
Yep _ think you would be okay with this. You may notice more front brake wear and the need to more frequently do an alignment. I would switch to load range E tires all the way around if you don't already have them. This alone will make a differance. Sounds like a neat project!
Old 11-01-2007 | 07:39 AM
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i was looking at buying a 93 chevy crew cab dually 4x4 that a guy was selling,it had no engine/trans,but he did have a 5.9 with an nv4500 for it.he said you have to customize the oil pan to clear the front differential.says he's done 3 or 4 conversions.he never said anything about beefing the front end up though.on a side note i was at a swap meet a couple months ago and there was a early 90's chevy 1/2 ton pickup there with the hood popped open,inside sat a 5.9.the frontend sat pretty low.quick way to make a lowrider.i wanted to talk to the guy but he never came around while i was there.
Old 11-01-2007 | 09:47 AM
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The major obstacle would be clearance for the front diff, It and the oil pan will want to live in the same space so it would probably require a ton of modification the the oil pan, or a suspension lift that lowers the front diff.
Old 11-01-2007 | 07:34 PM
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The major obstacle would be clearance for the front diff, It and the oil pan will want to live in the same space so it would probably require a ton of modification the the oil pan, or a suspension lift that lowers the front diff.
i believe the guy said something to the effect of you had to grind off some of the front diff to help with clearance.
Old 11-02-2007 | 02:33 PM
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Yeah, you'll be OK, just don't plow with it .


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