When the 1/2 ton gets a little Cummins the Jetta TDI is gone!!
I really don't care about the power I have the 1 ton for that.
I want 20-25mpg and 4 wheel drive.

 

20-25mpg and 4x4! I get that now. I hope it's more like 30/35mpg

 

If they would have used the 4bt in the 1/2 tons, when they started using the 5.9L in the big trucks, we would have a 4.5L 16v 4cyl Cummins. Too bad it would have all the emission crap on it, but it would be an awsome little truck. Maybe even a sweet Dakota Diesel! Alas, not in a million years would the car companies make something that sweet, and sell it in the US!!!!!!!
DS79

 

I know a guy living working in thailand in the oilfield. He just bought a Chevy Colorado with a 3.0L 4 banger Duramax. he dsaid he paid $24k for it all in. fullload.

His quote on it

 

I have a smaller tractor that has the 4.5L 16 valve Common Rail Intercooled Cummins. It is quiet, fuel efficent, powerfull,and reliable. Would have been the perfect engine for the 1/2 ton

Ticks me off just seeing the above knowing it not even a option for us Americans to buy

 

The bad thing is that you know it is built on the same line at the same plant the ones we get are.

 

The reason we cannot buy cool stuff like that is the the Big 3 are STILL OUT OF TOUCH WITH WHAT WE WANT!!! Instead, GM offers 13 different cars and suv's under their umbrella and are completing against THEMSELVES!!!

Man, those guys REALLY TICK ME OFF!!! The Chrysler CEO has said the reason they are in trouble is that they build "too good of a car". Really? Has anyone driven a k-car, a la baron, a 2000 neon (3 motors in 45,000 miles ask me how I know) a Focus, a cobalt or any of the current crock o crap of cars that they put out??

There is a reason a Nissan sentra is sitting in my driveway...

Man, I'm going to give myself a heart attack yet... Nothing like my tax dollars bailing out crappy car companies and then they take out full page ads thanking us... the least they could do is call me in the morning...

 

Not far. I'm guessing with that displacement and those dyno numbers the factory has pretty well squeezed everything out of it.

The 4BT boarders on too heavy for a 1/2 ton chasis and very likely cannot be made to pass the ridiculous modern emissions standards.

I'd gladly give up big HP for decent torque and 4BT-like reliability. But what do I know?

 

They already have that. The 5.7 HEMI is no joke, but like others here if I wanted a "fast revving, lots of power" truck I'd buy a HEMI. The fact is that no one (very few of us) would buy a 30+MPG 1/2 diesel. The market wants diesels that feel like gas powered vehicles.

 

They don't. And the reason they don't is that before 1989 the best diesel engine in the passenger vehicle market was the 6.9L NA Ford Diesel.

 

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I'm getting 19+ (empty) with my 4x4 3500 auto

 

But there are a bunch of us stuffing 4BTs into 1/2 and 3/4 tons getting real close to 30 MPG............ Bet you anything if they put the 4.5 QSB in it would be a HIT.


BTW, my 79 K2500 with a stock 105 Hp. 4BT is just as fast as it was with the old 350 Gasser, and gets 26 MPG Vs. the 16 the 350 got. In the spring the rusty old girl will be going to the boneyard and the 4BT will be heading to a 95 GMC K3500, I expect even higher MPGs with the 4500's extra gear.

 

You're getting that with a 24 Valve? I thought they were kinda bad on the fuel?

 

it's not bad. Right now I have gone 487.8 miles in town in stop and go driving and driving with a lead foot and I have a short box so that means I have a gallon or two less then most with the long box and my fuel gauge is between 1/8 and the red empty line. This mileage is not calculated for my larger tires either ( 285/75/r16). When driving nice or on hwy it gets a lot better

 

wow a cummins thats a V8 with aluminum heads, common rail, and a turbo in the valley. Who would have thought. What will they think of next???