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Old 07-23-2008 | 06:41 PM
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^^^^^^^

They are already experimenting with this in Arizona but it's not making diesel. Instead, it's fuelling the fire for the boilers.
Old 07-23-2008 | 07:08 PM
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In Kentucky they are working on an Algae system also...It is funded by Alltech Industries and the Kentucky government has given grants to Alltech to develop this biorefining plant using algae...Really interesting stuff. I toured the facility back in April and it is an amazing technology...The other advantage is that the algae uses CO2 for food so it is very environmentally friendly.....
Old 07-23-2008 | 07:55 PM
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so wait, i though we were trying to prevent alge growth in our tanks.... oh wait
Old 07-25-2008 | 11:27 AM
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The fed's will never allow this, how can big oil line their pockets if someone else is making some money? Then the "green weenies" will throw a fit becuase it will interfere with the pink backed, purple eyed turtle or some other ridiculous crap! LOL! I hope hope they hurry up and start selling the stuff.
Old 07-25-2008 | 02:08 PM
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How much water will be needed to grow/produce the fuel they talk about? 15,000 square miles of water! What about water evaporation! I hope they have all this figured out because I would rather be able to drink than drive They might be needing to divert some Mississippi river water for this project.

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Great Salt Lake, located in the northern part of the U.S. state of Utah, is the largest salt lake in the western hemisphere,[1] the fourth-largest terminal lake in the world,[2] and the 37th largest lake on Earth.[3] In an average year the lake covers an area of around 1,700 square miles[2] (4,400 kmē), but the lake's size fluctuates substantially due to its shallowness. For instance, in 1963 it reached its lowest recorded level at 950 square miles (2,460 kmē), but in 1987 the surface area was at the historic high of 3,300 square miles[2](8,547 kmē).

So we are looking at something about 9 times the area of the Great Salt lake! Holy Snykies!

Even if it is an enclosed system. How much area is needed?
Old 07-25-2008 | 02:36 PM
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If you would have watched the video you'd see, its in an enclosed system, so no contaminants and very little water loss. And if the oil companies are going to cry then we'll sell our oil to other countries, and keep the bio for us. If we produced enough, it would be cheap. I know it probably won't happen any time soon, but this would be awsome.
Old 07-25-2008 | 04:32 PM
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How dare they interfere with the rights of innocent algae!

Won't someone stand up to protect this single-celled wonder of nature?

I'm gonna start an organization to protect the rights of these helpless life forms from the evils of man!

I'll name the organization "Citizens for the Rights of Algae Protection", or CRAP for short.

So, who's with me?

Anyone?



Anyone?




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Old 07-25-2008 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by garbri
How dare they interfere with the rights of innocent algae!

Won't someone stand up to protect this single-celled wonder of nature?

I'm gonna start an organization to protect the rights of these helpless life forms from the evils of man!

I'll name the organization "Citizens for the Rights of Algae Protection", or CRAP for short.

So, who's with me?

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Anyone?




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i bet you'll have no trouble getting the oil companies' support.
Old 07-25-2008 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by garbri
How dare they interfere with the rights of innocent algae!

Won't someone stand up to protect this single-celled wonder of nature?

I'm gonna start an organization to protect the rights of these helpless life forms from the evils of man!

I'll name the organization "Citizens for the Rights of Algae Protection", or CRAP for short.

So, who's with me?

Anyone?



Anyone?




garrett

And those little boogers do more than just make fuel. They also clean up the water and convert carbon dioxide to oxygen.

It's a win win situation.

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Old 07-25-2008 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sled4fun
How much water will be needed to grow/produce the fuel they talk about? 15,000 square miles of water! What about water evaporation! I hope they have all this figured out because I would rather be able to drink than drive They might be needing to divert some Mississippi river water for this project.

Just as a reference:
from Wiki
Great Salt Lake, located in the northern part of the U.S. state of Utah, is the largest salt lake in the western hemisphere,[1] the fourth-largest terminal lake in the world,[2] and the 37th largest lake on Earth.[3] In an average year the lake covers an area of around 1,700 square miles[2] (4,400 kmē), but the lake's size fluctuates substantially due to its shallowness. For instance, in 1963 it reached its lowest recorded level at 950 square miles (2,460 kmē), but in 1987 the surface area was at the historic high of 3,300 square miles[2](8,547 kmē).

So we are looking at something about 9 times the area of the Great Salt lake! Holy Snykies!

Even if it is an enclosed system. How much area is needed?
watch the video!! no need to turn a whole state into a pond....those bladders make it super efficient!!I hope it pans out for real!! it would be cool....they would probably tax it so hard it would be the same price as petro fuel anyway...lol
Old 07-25-2008 | 11:13 PM
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Biodiesel from algae IS really cool. Once they work the details out and find the best way to filter and process the stuff, it could very well make a big dent in our fuel oil use.
Its not dependent on farmland and wont replace food crops. theres no ethical dilemma since you cant eat it. It can be fed waste streams like sewage and power plant emissions. Theres a lot of potential benefit.
With the prices receding a bit on petroleum, we might find investment tapering off a bit. depends on how badly the market corrects.
The other thing about algae thats interesting is that you could technically use it to sequester CO2 by growing it on emissions or ambient CO2 and pumping it into empty oil fields. If youre one of those that believes climate change is man-made, that is. Theres a lot of evidence solar activity is playing a large role.
Old 07-26-2008 | 11:55 AM
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nothin new there! Germany was producing plant based engine fuels,in 1943 remember we cutoff all ther oil supplies, they were using Algae and plants from the bottom of the Danube river,1000miles long. yah gotta do what yah gotta do!! then we destroyed all there technology too! Thx Ron
Old 07-26-2008 | 11:56 AM
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love good wars,,,brings out the best in people!
Old 07-26-2008 | 12:45 PM
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CRAP it is. I would hate to see any of the CRAP go to anyone else.
Old 07-26-2008 | 01:22 PM
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I work at Palo Verde and we got an APS Newsletter last year about the algae experiment at the Redhawk Plant that was aired on the History channel. They pump their gas turbine emmissions thru the algae tubes and power grow the stuff. They said it would only take 200 desert acres to supply the whole country with biodiesel (at ~$ 1.25/gal) and they also get a little ethanol from it. Then they can make great cattle feed out of the leftovers mush. It's a win-win-win deal but our trusty gov't. is behind the huge corn/ethanol insane blunder - what a joke!


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