I’m sure this has been brought up....and i have done some reading...but i think its a good topic to bring back up.

Where is the best place to get oil for making Bio? I keep hearing Chinese restaurants are the best oil to use. Titrates better?? Right?

What about McDonalds (Man that is weird to spell, having the last name MacDonald )? Grocery store Deli? Can any oil be used with success? I just want to start talking to places so when im ready to make it, i have oil to do it with. AND im still learning the area here in Washington, MO!!! Good excuse to get out and see the place more!

That "Book"....or the Bio Bible, is on its way to me!!!!! SO im sure it all in there too! DUDE! IM very excited about this....I think it going to be a blast....this coming from a guy that his fav show as a kid was Mr. Wizard! I get to play mad scientist and build/design my own station! ANYWAY……I digress…………

 

Ask what they are using.
The chemical properties that cause oils to go rancid and cause health problems (especially when cooked) are basically the same ones that increase the tendency for biodiesel made from those oils to polymerize in injection systems. Canola and safflower oil are preferable over soy. Avoid animal fat fryer oil (lard) that places like Taco Bell use.

 

I've heard the Chinese places aren't the greatest either, I forget why, either the salt/msg or infrequency of fryer changes?

As stated here before, securing the consistant WVO locations is the biggest hassel of home brewing.

 

I thought I hit pay dirt when a chineese rest. said I could have all of their oil. Turned out it was 100% lard. Talk about healthy!

Lard is animal fat (also called tallow) and will usually be putty or solid at or near 70 degrees. Not good for bio making. Some chineese (asian) restuarants use good oil, but like infidel says, you really need to find out what kind of oil they use before you commit to taking it. You also need to commit to taking all of it unless you get ahold of somebody really cool. It's kind of a pain in the winter when you can't use as much (due to gelling in cold temps).

If they can put it back in the cubies (containers) that it originally came in, then you golden. Otherwise you will need to pump it or scoop it out of a dumpster, or may have to provide them with a barrel for dumping the used oil into.

Most rest. have a contract with a rendering company that the rest. pays to have it hauled away. Sometimes the rest. gets paid a small amount for the oil. The other issue is, once the oil is in the rendering companies dumpster, then it belongs to them, and technically if you remove it, you are stealing.

I made up fliers once, passed about 15 of them. Got about 3 calls. I am collecting from one of them on a regular basis. I dropped them off at places that are on my way home from work, so I can stop by as often as needed and no special trips. They call me when they have a pick up. I promise to pick up oil within 24 hours of a call, and I always let them know when I will be out of town for awhile. They have no problem holding it for a few days when that happens. If they commit to giving you the oil, then the rendering company will take away the dumpster so you need to be on it. They are after all doing you a favor.

You also need to tell them NO WATER in the oil. It is common for them to use water to fluch out the fryers, and it is a big problem for you if any water is in there.

Try mom and pop rest, pizza shops, asian rest, etc. Drop off a flyer. "Free used cooking oil collection" Go on about how this is "no charge", but mention that it needs to meet certian minor criteria (like the water). Mention that it will be recycled into an environmentally friendly product. Avoid stating that you make fuel with it. They will be concerned about you "blowing yourself up" and liability, and they may think thay got something worth $$.

I tell them I add it to the feed for the hogs and the chickens, end of story. THat is the reason for "no water" it promotes bacteria growth that makes them sick. It works for me. HTH, KD

 

i get grease from a diner. it titrates between .5 and .75. Thats really good,up to 3 is acceptable. ive often wondered if all diners have good stuff.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/soy-o...37817343QQrdZ1

This guy sells barrells of oil for making biodiesel. About $2+ a gallon not including shipping for this "waste" oil. If I had a source like this and it was close to home, who knows? I'd probably turn into a brewer of good things for my truck myself!!

 

Thats great...but you would not be that far ahead as far as cost goes.......kinda my whole point of tring to make bio in the first place. This is an expample of someone that knows what he has....and i think he is charging too much for it personaly...

 

Yeah really. I'd be suprised if he sells a whole lot at that price. Maybe half that?

 

Especially when you can buy food grade new peanut oil in 5 gallon cans at Costco for the same $2 a gallon, while their soy oil is a bit higher. But you'd think that with buying this much in bulk that it would be cheaper. I agree....he knows what he has there.
I just talked to a guy in Canada that makes biodiesel bumper stickers and the like and he tells me that he buys his biodiesel from a local farmer who brews it up himself there at the farm to the tune of 600 to 800 gallons per week. Seems the farmer wasn't washing it or wasn't doing it correctly. This guy commented on how the quality wasn't consistant until the farmer started washing it right. He said the farmer thought that if it "looked good and ran his equipment" it was good biodiesel. Seems like they have it together now as he said they think of the washing cycle as being important now that he about the dive in quality. Wish I could brew up 600 gallons at my place a week....
Chuck

 

That is why i will not sell what i make......too much libility! AND i dont think its exactally leagal.......but..... We will see when i feel comfortable and dont blow my truck up!