An amazing article about the future of our diesel fuel, as soon as 2011 diesel will be made from natural gas in a plant that cost 20 billion dollars.........................worth the read

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate...n/11656954.htm

 

Someone was talking on here a while back about Germany using some method to refine Naty Gas in Diesel. I can't remember what the topic was, but they were saying that it had been experimented with during WWII.

 

Sounds Expensive.

 

Dealing with OPEC is going to get even more expensive.
Soy Bio-Diesel.... Use it!

 

Soo..... someone explain to me how it is that you can determine that "sulphur causes 10,000 deaths per year in the United States". Moreover, how can you determine that THIS sulphur is from diesel emissions????

Maybe someone is just lighting too many matches?

jlh

 

Hohn the logic there is that higher sulfur diesel has much higher smoke and particulate emissions, so therefore proportionately they are claiming that a lot of respiratory ailments are exacerbated or caused by sulfur. The whole push is based on their assertion that lowering sulfur in diesel fuel will directly lower the number of respiratory sufferers.

 

killfast1,
In one of the articles I read, ExxonMobile or Shell or whomever could still turn a profit with oil at $20.00 a barrel.

 

XP8103: They all managed to turn a profit when oil sank to $10 barrel, not that long ago. I heard, the other day, that Valero Oil was buying domestic sour crude, turning it into gasoline and making huge profits. That's good news for us in the Western USA, which is a major source of sour crude.

 

Valero is getting HUGE, not only in reifining but in Retail. Every third station out my way is Valero, they sem to have bought out the "Shore Stop" brand stations or something. Maybe they'll shock the industry?

 

Yeah, they'll shock you when you go to fill up next week! Despite dropping an average four cents last week, the dealers here raised the price another two. Ah, tourist season....ya gotta love it for ninety days!

 

That has been the case for some time now.. The big Valero refinery here in Corpus Christi, TX buys the cheapest, nastiest, heaviest, most gosh-awful crude oil vacuum-bottoms that can still be heated and pumped. They have a really good process that cracks that sticky "liquid coal" and turns it into some fine gasoline. They're running flat-out all the time too.
I just wished the #2 diesel would get down to the $ level that Reg UL is right now.. $1.91/gal!!!
#2D= $2.09/gal

BTW, VALERO is Venezuelan owned.. That Socialist presidente down there doesn't want much to do with the USA anymore except take our money. So, there is serious talk about selling off the US Valero refineries.. China? who knows!

K.

 

Logical, yes. Scientific? Hardly. You simply can't establish causality, and it's pretty ridiculous that they try.

jmho

 

You think that's bad, you should see what gets "proven" in court during cases against the oil companies.

 

I think the point is being missed here, the fact remains that right now as we speak the USA and the world are burning all the diesel that we make, this keeps the market always on edge of running out of fuel, I read somewhere recently that there is only like a 5 to 8 day supply of fuel if we were to stop all the refineries production.last winter when it got cold in the north east where they burn mostly heating fuel in their homes thats when diesel took the big price increase, heating oil and diesel come from the same base stock..........so if the world were to get the supply of this new clean fuel made from natural gas then there would be more supply and prices would come down, ever heard of creating a shortage to cause a demand? thats kinda why the fuel prices are so high. I remember about 20 years ago when the famous Paul Harvey finished up with one of his BS stories and he ended with "whats next a toilet paper shortage" well alot of folks took that statement to heart and went out and bought cases and caases of toilet paper, this created a shortage as the other folks couldnt find any TP and when they did they also bought a case or two..............see where I am going here? I say bring on all the fuel ya can and flood the market with it.

Cheers, Kevin

 

Kev, this is done to keep the fuel fresh