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Old 10-05-2006 | 11:20 AM
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I kinda doubt that a fullsize truck with 450hp with only two wheel drive will get much better than a low 14 or high 13. I am afraid he will have traction problems on take off. If you launch in 4hi at 5psi you should smoke him off the line and be too far in front of him for him to catch up once he gets hooked up. You two are running around the same horsepower levels but you do have alot more torque. His truck wont pull as hard on the topend than yours will.

My guess is that it will be a close race, but you will come out ahead. I would definetaly go for it. If he does beat you, it wont be by much at all. Just my $ .02.
Old 10-05-2006 | 12:27 PM
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now you see there blue, guys saying that if you break your input shaft it might take out teh converter. Now if it were a goerends, the converter would be warrantied...

Just jerkin your chain a lil...
Old 10-05-2006 | 03:47 PM
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I have a buddy that kills SRT 10 trucks pretty regular with his 3rd gen. He runs mid to high 13's.

Now if it were a goerends, the converter would be warrantied...
Any other builder warranty a converter without shafts?
Old 10-05-2006 | 04:12 PM
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I think you have chance. I was cutting 1.8 60fts with 39.5s and 7psi of boost.
Old 10-05-2006 | 04:22 PM
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Great to hear that you are finally getting your long awaited tranny done, i know you have been raving about it for a while now. Before you race him, give the tranny some break in time, get that first thousand miles on it and then service it, then after that take him up on the race. The DTT trannys are awesome, they will take some abuse, but like i have said before in other threads, dont think that they are unbreakable. I toasted one already and finally got it back at the begining of the week, an entire brand new tranny. I dont think that you will break and shafts if you go kind of easy off the line. DTTs warrenty is kind of iffy, they will cover anything that goes wrong with it if it is due to faulty parts ect, but they will not cover excessive abuse and owner mishaps. They did what that could to help me on my tranny, but i cant blame them for not covering damage caused by the owner , good luck
Old 10-05-2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CTD2001
Big Blue
Great to hear that you are finally getting your long awaited tranny done, i know you have been raving about it for a while now. Before you race him, give the tranny some break in time, get that first thousand miles on it and then service it, then after that take him up on the race. The DTT trannys are awesome, they will take some abuse, but like i have said before in other threads, dont think that they are unbreakable. I toasted one already and finally got it back at the begining of the week, an entire brand new tranny. I dont think that you will break and shafts if you go kind of easy off the line. DTTs warrenty is kind of iffy, they will cover anything that goes wrong with it if it is due to faulty parts ect, but they will not cover excessive abuse and owner mishaps. They did what that could to help me on my tranny, but i cant blame them for not covering damage caused by the owner , good luck

CTD2001, let me ask you this, why in the world would you build a tranny with billet shafts and not try to abuse it? theres no other reason for billet shafts!
dave would have covered your tranny for sure, i already asked him.
he said the samething he expects people to do boosted launches and drag racing, pulls.
im sorry i just think you payed way to much for that tranny to be rebuilding already.
also i think you didnt do anything wrong. if a 20psi launch is wrong, then alot more people would be rebuilding their trannys.

i m sorry i just had to get that out, dieselfan
Old 10-06-2006 | 08:23 AM
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That's kind of like selling drag slicks with a mileage warranty. Eventully he will have to start charging or go out of business. You can't eat other peoples mistakes and stay in business forever.




Originally Posted by dieselfan
CTD2001, let me ask you this, why in the world would you build a tranny with billet shafts and not try to abuse it? theres no other reason for billet shafts!
dave would have covered your tranny for sure, i already asked him.
he said the samething he expects people to do boosted launches and drag racing, pulls.
im sorry i just think you payed way to much for that tranny to be rebuilding already.
also i think you didnt do anything wrong. if a 20psi launch is wrong, then alot more people would be rebuilding their trannys.

i m sorry i just had to get that out, dieselfan
Old 10-06-2006 | 12:23 PM
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Well I talked to the guy again today and I think I stand a better chance than I originally projected. He's got full exhaust, cold air intake, underdrive pulley, super chips, and a 100-125 shot of nitrous. It's a 2wd and is lowered.

CTD2001, I know that DTT's aren't invincible but I have very rarely ever read of one failing that wasn't either from abuse or neglect or both and that's why I chose them. I also like the way that they go about building the trans. Just seems more logical to me. I can also completely understand their warranty policy. I don't expect someone to warranty something I broke while abusing it. That would be like me melting my engine down and trying to make dodge warranty it. I broke it, I should pay for it.

dieselfan, there are quite a lot of people doing 20psi launches on their DTT's without any issues. CTD2001 just happened to be the unfortunate one that broke. The goerend's will break to. Along with ATS, Suncoast, and all of the other's. DTT fully expects you to abuse their tranny's and I fully intend on beating the ever living tar out of mine. But if I'm doing a boosted launch on stock shafts and I take the trans out, I do not expect them to cover it. I broke it, I should pay for it. Dave has one helluva warranty and I fully respect him for it. But, like mcoleman said, you can only pay for other's mistakes so much before it starts eating into your budget. Also, please do not turn this into a tranny war. I never asked for any info or anything about warranty's or nothing. I asked how I would do in a race. Not if my tranny will hold.
Old 10-06-2006 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Well I talked to the guy again today and I think I stand a better chance than I originally projected. He's got full exhaust, cold air intake, underdrive pulley, super chips, and a 100-125 shot of nitrous. It's a 2wd and is lowered.

CTD2001, I know that DTT's aren't invincible but I have very rarely ever read of one failing that wasn't either from abuse or neglect or both and that's why I chose them. I also like the way that they go about building the trans. Just seems more logical to me. I can also completely understand their warranty policy. I don't expect someone to warranty something I broke while abusing it. That would be like me melting my engine down and trying to make dodge warranty it. I broke it, I should pay for it.

dieselfan, there are quite a lot of people doing 20psi launches on their DTT's without any issues. CTD2001 just happened to be the unfortunate one that broke. The goerend's will break to. Along with ATS, Suncoast, and all of the other's. DTT fully expects you to abuse their tranny's and I fully intend on beating the ever living tar out of mine. But if I'm doing a boosted launch on stock shafts and I take the trans out, I do not expect them to cover it. I broke it, I should pay for it. Dave has one helluva warranty and I fully respect him for it. But, like mcoleman said, you can only pay for other's mistakes so much before it starts eating into your budget. Also, please do not turn this into a tranny war. I never asked for any info or anything about warranty's or nothing. I asked how I would do in a race. Not if my tranny will hold.
Well go race him already and report back!
Old 10-06-2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Well I talked to the guy again today and I think I stand a better chance than I originally projected. He's got full exhaust, cold air intake, underdrive pulley, super chips, and a 100-125 shot of nitrous. It's a 2wd and is lowered.
That is a combo I have seen a few times, depending on the driver skill and tires could be mid to low 13s. 4wd 15psi launch and see what happens.
Old 10-06-2006 | 05:54 PM
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Most of the Hemi's I've seen run are 14's - 15's. Best one's I've seen have been mid 13's by the best of my recollection. If you've got your DTT in at that point, you've got a very good chance.
Old 10-06-2006 | 07:13 PM
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Well go race him already and report back!
Gotta build the tranny. With the smarty only it doesn't like anything over half throttle. Injectors alone sucks.
Old 10-06-2006 | 07:29 PM
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Gotta build the tranny. With the smarty only it doesn't like anything over half throttle. Injectors alone sucks.

You'll be in good shape with the DTT. They're not bullet proof, but none of them are. Billet shafts would be a good idea if you can swing it especially if you are going to drag race some. Maybe you can work a deal with the builder to go back in for the shafts later for a reasonable price. Keep your boosted launches under 10 without billet shafts, maybe even 5. There are plenty of folks with broken stock shafts around your hp when the boost flashed over 10 on them. If there is anyway for you to swing the billet shafts, go ahead and do while you are in there. McMopar speaks the truth, he's helped plenty of folks with broken stock shafts from drag racing.
Old 10-06-2006 | 07:37 PM
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blue, i got a gasser for you! haha
Old 10-07-2006 | 02:46 AM
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If I could do swing the shafts I'd do them in a heart beat but I'm barely able to afford the trans itself (it sucks being in college). I have a feeling that I won't be doing any boosted launches with the new tranny. I didn't mind it to much on the stocker cause I figured the TC would let go before the shafts but once the new one goes in I know the shafts are the next weakest link.


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