ABDTR #5 Alberta Chapter #5 Discussion

can you buy the wire for O-Ringing seperate?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-27-2008, 12:11 AM
  #31  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
morkable's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta
Posts: 5,426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No problem anything to help you out!

Kevin
Old 12-27-2008, 12:39 AM
  #32  
Registered User
 
19Fury69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: High River, Alberta
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think I heard the guy at Cummins say something like 200 for the HG, may be different for 3rd gens.
Old 12-27-2008, 12:49 AM
  #33  
Registered User
 
Tate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
Posts: 7,780
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Jamie, start on the very center bolt/stud, and work your way out in a spiral pattern. Jamie, is this for your rig? How far are you looking to go? I don't see why pulling one bolt and installing a stud would be a bad way if you're not gonna push it as much as Kevin has.

Kevin, the 625's are still a 12mm stud, so no drill and tap. Down side to those ones is since you are torqueing them like a 14mm, sometimes the threads in the block go *pop*. Fairly rare though.
Old 12-27-2008, 11:03 AM
  #34  
Registered User
 
bigd450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Posts: 303
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tate
Jamie, start on the very center bolt/stud, and work your way out in a spiral pattern. Jamie, is this for your rig?
Thats what we did on my bro's third gen. Its been holding 70psi daily.
Old 12-27-2008, 12:30 PM
  #35  
Registered User
 
dodgediesel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Posts: 3,190
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tate
Jamie, start on the very center bolt/stud, and work your way out in a spiral pattern. Jamie, is this for your rig? How far are you looking to go? I don't see why pulling one bolt and installing a stud would be a bad way if you're not gonna push it as much as Kevin has.

Kevin, the 625's are still a 12mm stud, so no drill and tap. Down side to those ones is since you are torqueing them like a 14mm, sometimes the threads in the block go *pop*. Fairly rare though.
I'm just curious on the torque pattern doing it that way. It is on my 07 5.9L. I would like to do studs for cheap insurance but I'm not sure which way to do it?? I'm shooting for 600HP and that's plenty for now.
Old 12-27-2008, 01:04 PM
  #36  
Registered User
 
1-5-3-6-2-4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okotoks AB
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I installed my arp studs one at a time with the stock HG. lasted for about year before i upped the boost over 50psi, and wasted the HG. thats when I got orings. I paid 150 for the thick HG through Cummins WC.

i suck at computer graphics so you have to imagine the swirl pattern for torquing the heads. same as any head torque pattern. start in the center and work your way to the outside alternating side to side. you have to remove the rockers to do the intake side line.
Old 12-27-2008, 01:12 PM
  #37  
Registered User
 
1-5-3-6-2-4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okotoks AB
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
here the number pattern out of the service manual.

Old 12-27-2008, 04:34 PM
  #38  
The Guru
 
Mike Holmen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Airdrie Canada
Posts: 6,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just remove one bolt at a time and install the new stud. I've done it that way. I followed the book and used their pattern. Jamie, how much boost you going to? A 3rd gen with studs should be ok for 50ish psi without o-rings.

Kev, torque up the studs really good. I use 135 ft*lbs on mine. Head gaskets are easy and cost more than $60 bucks. There are a few more gaskets needed than just the head gasket. I like putting in new gasket to get a decent seal for the air intake horn and the turbo turbine flange.

$200 bones is smoken deal. The cheapest I got mine done for $350.
Old 12-27-2008, 04:39 PM
  #39  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
morkable's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fort McMurray, Alberta
Posts: 5,426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I was pushing 80psi without orings... they will take alot,, but I did have studs though
Old 12-27-2008, 11:45 PM
  #40  
Registered User
 
rage_blue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: grande prarrie
Posts: 346
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
When you do the studs, watch out for the rear most stud near the back of the head, it likes to stick up a hair to far and hit the rocker box and keep it from sealing, a little work with a file or burr on the rocker box will fix it. Oh and the long studs go on the pass side of the head, sould be 6 or 7 of them.
Old 12-28-2008, 09:16 AM
  #41  
The Guru
 
Mike Holmen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Airdrie Canada
Posts: 6,589
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know you guys have newer stuff than me but I had to trim some of my valve cover material for the front stud next to the thermostat. The back ones are buggers to put in. I haven't even put in my plugs for the cab.
Old 12-28-2008, 11:23 AM
  #42  
Registered User
 
1-5-3-6-2-4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okotoks AB
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
if you bottom tap the holes like you should anyways they clear no problem. the stud shouldn't be tight in the block before you torque the nut. stud should only be finger tight. had to use a 48" pry bar on the cowl to get that "little" extra clearance to get the back 1 or 2 down.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
The_Head
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
17
06-28-2011 09:25 PM
Firebb15
1st Gen. Ram - All Topics
2
07-13-2009 03:35 PM
Greguw
12 Valve Engine and Drivetrain
5
03-07-2006 07:00 PM
GO 4LO
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
19
05-05-2004 03:25 PM
TPilaske
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
16
11-22-2002 08:15 PM



Quick Reply: can you buy the wire for O-Ringing seperate?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:29 AM.