Welding on frame
09-14-2006, 11:15 AM
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In the service manual, it tells you what rod to use, what amperage, and how hot you can get it without weakening. I have the manual on my external hard drive, just don't have it at the moment or I would put the info in. Personally, I would bolt your flatbed on. If you get into a spot, say, crossing a ditch at an odd angle, or something of that sort, a weld may pop, where bolting it on would allow a little flex since your frame will twist as it is designed. Most flatbed manufacturers use grade 8 bolts, in about 6 places, three on each side of the bed. my $.02
09-14-2006, 11:35 AM
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Thats a new one . never heard that one before . Its a alll position rod, Its a in and out rod wip back in and out to run the beed. welding 101.
6011,6010 are agressive penitrating rods, good for rusted metal . I call them battle ship rod. They are good in general and certain applications.
6013 is a medium penitrating rod works good for general welding, all position. 7014 fills good and welds easy, slag comes off easy, welds easy. 7018 runs nice beads also, and slag comes of easy , needs a close arc ,flat welds best , hard to weld verticle and upside down.
6011,6010 are agressive penitrating rods, good for rusted metal . I call them battle ship rod. They are good in general and certain applications.
6013 is a medium penitrating rod works good for general welding, all position. 7014 fills good and welds easy, slag comes off easy, welds easy. 7018 runs nice beads also, and slag comes of easy , needs a close arc ,flat welds best , hard to weld verticle and upside down.
09-14-2006, 11:53 AM
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Thats a new one . never heard that one before . Its a alll position rod, Its a in and out rod wip back in and out to run the beed. welding 101.
6011,6010 are agressive penitrating rods, good for rusted metal . I call them battle ship rod. They are good in general and certain applications.
6013 is a medium penitrating rod works good for general welding, all position. 7014 fills good and welds easy, slag comes off easy, welds easy. 7018 runs nice beads also, and slag comes of easy , needs a close arc ,flat welds best , hard to weld verticle and upside down.
6011,6010 are agressive penitrating rods, good for rusted metal . I call them battle ship rod. They are good in general and certain applications.
6013 is a medium penitrating rod works good for general welding, all position. 7014 fills good and welds easy, slag comes off easy, welds easy. 7018 runs nice beads also, and slag comes of easy , needs a close arc ,flat welds best , hard to weld verticle and upside down.
E=arc welding electrode
70=tensile strength in psi
1=acceptable weld position
1=all pos
2=flat and horizontal
3=flat
8=flux coating used
DC=Direct current,straight or reversed
09-14-2006, 12:08 PM
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I used 7018, 2 passes, to weld my Binkley 5th to the back of my deck, the deck is bolted to the truck frame.
Yes 6010/11 is a 60 000 tensile strength and so on, but should not be used in places of varying load forces, excessive twisting, etc. it will crack.
The only time I use 6010, for structural welding, is on little, unimportant things such as handrails, and any galvanized material.
7018 is the rod for structural welding that have high load forces, and is easily welded in all positions, including vertical uphand and overhead. If you cant do it, pay somebody to. The thought of 6010/6011 used to weld down a hitch sends chills down my spine.
Yes 6010/11 is a 60 000 tensile strength and so on, but should not be used in places of varying load forces, excessive twisting, etc. it will crack.
The only time I use 6010, for structural welding, is on little, unimportant things such as handrails, and any galvanized material.
7018 is the rod for structural welding that have high load forces, and is easily welded in all positions, including vertical uphand and overhead. If you cant do it, pay somebody to. The thought of 6010/6011 used to weld down a hitch sends chills down my spine.
....................................Just kiddin it's only 48,000
09-15-2006, 08:43 AM
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6013 is a medium penitrating rod works good for general welding, all position. 7014 fills good and welds easy, slag comes off easy, welds easy. 7018 runs nice beads also, and slag comes of easy , needs a close arc ,flat welds best , hard to weld verticle and upside down.[/QUOTE]
hard to weld verticle and upside down?
hard to weld verticle and upside down?
09-15-2006, 11:02 AM
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Just MIG it and don't worry about it..
Seriously, you can weld to the frame just fine as long as you take your time. The worst thing you could do is to tack the piece in place, and go to town laying long lengths of bead. Move around, and keep the frame cool to the touch at all times. May take you many hours to complete all the welding but the frame will stay straight this way....
Like mentioned before. Keep the ground CLOSE to the weld area, and connected well to avoid electrical problems. I've never had one...
-Don
Seriously, you can weld to the frame just fine as long as you take your time. The worst thing you could do is to tack the piece in place, and go to town laying long lengths of bead. Move around, and keep the frame cool to the touch at all times. May take you many hours to complete all the welding but the frame will stay straight this way....
Like mentioned before. Keep the ground CLOSE to the weld area, and connected well to avoid electrical problems. I've never had one...
-Don
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