Never again a Dodge!
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Originally posted by Slider
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Also I don’t think your suppose to tow in OD on the Chevy/GMC with the type of weight you are hauling.
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Also I don’t think your suppose to tow in OD on the Chevy/GMC with the type of weight you are hauling.
Originally posted by Slider
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Anyway thanks for the encouragement to trade-in the Dodge Boss Hog, maybe I will, but I think what I will do first is try what some of the members have suggested, like have it checked out at the dealer and then try towing at a slower speed.
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Anyway thanks for the encouragement to trade-in the Dodge Boss Hog, maybe I will, but I think what I will do first is try what some of the members have suggested, like have it checked out at the dealer and then try towing at a slower speed.
The Boss Hog
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I did say in a previous post Hog that I was sorry for coming on a strong, what else do you want? I did not cuss or write out any bad words just used the “Shift key” and some numbers. Moderator wants to take that as swearing ok fine, I won’t do it again.
And I agree most people are truly interested in getting a problem solved and I truly appreciate all that have responded, they have helped a lot, even your comments are appreciated Boss Hog even if they are digs about my truthfulness, if you mean it, say it! Last thing I would think you should be worried about is what I call the thread, who knows maybe it will be just that for me “Never again a Dodge!” I hope not, but time will tell. I’m not a posser with a Chevy or Ford just out to bash a Dodge truck! I took the big leap from being a life long Chevy person to Dodge, it was a Big change for me and I was shocked at the mileage I got after following all the rules and waiting until 1800 miles to tow with it. Again thanks for everyone’s input & comments; I will try to share what I learn from this with the forum.
And I agree most people are truly interested in getting a problem solved and I truly appreciate all that have responded, they have helped a lot, even your comments are appreciated Boss Hog even if they are digs about my truthfulness, if you mean it, say it! Last thing I would think you should be worried about is what I call the thread, who knows maybe it will be just that for me “Never again a Dodge!” I hope not, but time will tell. I’m not a posser with a Chevy or Ford just out to bash a Dodge truck! I took the big leap from being a life long Chevy person to Dodge, it was a Big change for me and I was shocked at the mileage I got after following all the rules and waiting until 1800 miles to tow with it. Again thanks for everyone’s input & comments; I will try to share what I learn from this with the forum.
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I'm in the same boat. I am very disappointed with my mileage. I have tried everything that is supposed to boost mpg almost to the point of overkill. The best I have and gotten is 13.8.
Before I bought this truck, I spoke with my uncle who is a farmer. He has been using trucks like this to pull for years. When I said I wanted a diesel, he said "why?" I said for the power and gas mileage. He said that I had been mislead. He told me of other farmers who had them and said they didn't get any better milage and were not any stronger pullers for stuff around the farm than his Chevy HD is.
I thought he was crazy, but at times I feel like an idiot for not listening to someone w/ some experience. I don't believe these guys on here saying they are getting 18- 20+mpg out of a 4x4 600. The ONLY way mine would get 20 is if I drove 13 and had it towed the other 7 miles. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck, but it is not my everyday driver.
Before I bought this truck, I spoke with my uncle who is a farmer. He has been using trucks like this to pull for years. When I said I wanted a diesel, he said "why?" I said for the power and gas mileage. He said that I had been mislead. He told me of other farmers who had them and said they didn't get any better milage and were not any stronger pullers for stuff around the farm than his Chevy HD is.
I thought he was crazy, but at times I feel like an idiot for not listening to someone w/ some experience. I don't believe these guys on here saying they are getting 18- 20+mpg out of a 4x4 600. The ONLY way mine would get 20 is if I drove 13 and had it towed the other 7 miles. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck, but it is not my everyday driver.
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Can you confirm " 65mph @ 3100rpm"
It seems the RPM is very high for the speed. My math says a 4.10 rear end at 2200 RPM should get you 73.6 MPH in OD (0.69) and 50.8 in 3rd (1.0). no OD.
The above calculations are based on using LT235/80R18E tires and a 48RE Trans.
It is my understanding that the "sweet spot" on the 04 is ~ 1900-2100 RPM
Cheers frank
Can you confirm " 65mph @ 3100rpm"
It seems the RPM is very high for the speed. My math says a 4.10 rear end at 2200 RPM should get you 73.6 MPH in OD (0.69) and 50.8 in 3rd (1.0). no OD.
The above calculations are based on using LT235/80R18E tires and a 48RE Trans.
It is my understanding that the "sweet spot" on the 04 is ~ 1900-2100 RPM
Cheers frank
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I thought he was crazy, but at times I feel like an idiot for not listening to someone w/ some experience. I don't believe these guys on here saying they are getting 18- 20+mpg out of a 4x4 600. The ONLY way mine would get 20 is if I drove 13 and had it towed the other 7 miles. Don't get me wrong, I love the truck, but it is not my everyday driver. [/B]
At least my cab smell is going away and I don't have the rear end whine (but I have only 800 miles on it and read today that I won't notice that until around 3000 miles when the gears break in - ).
As for the rest of the truck, I love it.
Neil
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FrankB - those numbers "65mph @ 3100rpm" I was talking about my my half ton 99 Chevy. it has a 6" fabtech lift kit 315 tires 4.56 gears.
Your numbers for the 4.10rear end @2200 is almost exactly what the GPS said, I was doing 71~73 and getting 7.4mpg
Thanks FrankB, I will try this, this weekend. I will take the trailer out see what MPG i get towing @ 1900rpm
Your numbers for the 4.10rear end @2200 is almost exactly what the GPS said, I was doing 71~73 and getting 7.4mpg
Thanks FrankB, I will try this, this weekend. I will take the trailer out see what MPG i get towing @ 1900rpm
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It gets better!
04.5/3500/Quad/4x4/6 speed manual/3.73/285-70-17 tires (32.8")
New
50 to 55 miles x hour 17 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 15.5 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 14 miles x gal
Now
50 to 55 miles x hour 20 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 18 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 16 miles x gal
And getting better!
04.5/3500/Quad/4x4/6 speed manual/3.73/285-70-17 tires (32.8")
New
50 to 55 miles x hour 17 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 15.5 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 14 miles x gal
Now
50 to 55 miles x hour 20 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 18 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 16 miles x gal
And getting better!
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Originally posted by Eddy Reyes
It gets better!
04.5/3500/Quad/4x4/6 speed manual/3.73/285-70-17 tires (32.8")
New
50 to 55 miles x hour 17 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 15.5 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 14 miles x gal
Now
50 to 55 miles x hour 20 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 18 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 16 miles x gal
And getting better!
It gets better!
04.5/3500/Quad/4x4/6 speed manual/3.73/285-70-17 tires (32.8")
New
50 to 55 miles x hour 17 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 15.5 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 14 miles x gal
Now
50 to 55 miles x hour 20 miles x gal
60 to 65 miles x hour 18 miles x gal
70 to 75 miles x hour 16 miles x gal
And getting better!
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Above 2000rpm with THAT trailer.Sounds normal to me.Keep it under 2000 even 1950 and see what happens.Run 90 to nothing pulling a parachute and your mileage showed it.
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You wanted mpg, should have bought a truck that didnt weigh 7500lbs. Go down to the local used carlot, and get yourself a "65 special "volkwagen diesel pickup. 65mpg, 65hp, 65 lbft of torque. Id hate to hear the crying if he had bought the hemi, or a v10. Wont buy another dodge because of the fuel mileage, try getting a better paying job. Just wait until winter, the price of fuel will flip flop with that of gasoline.
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OK..truck came back from the Dealer today, the service manger said the ECM is up to date, and he gave me a print out of a bunch of statistics from the ECM: below is the info
ECM# 203252253AG
Total Fuel – 243 gallons
Total Time - 94 hrs
Total Idle Fuel – 22galons
Total Idle time – 35hrs
Total Distance - 2838 miles
Total Ave Fuel – 12mpg
% of time at Load:
0-10% Load - 18.1%
11-20% - 26.9%
21-30% - 18.8%
31-40% - 12.6%
41-50% - 7.1%
51-60% - 3.0%
61-70% - 2.1%
71-80% - 1.2%
81-90% - 0.4%
91-100% - 0.3%
The service manger said my idle time is killing me and the D600 uses a lot more fuel at idle than previous engines. I don’t really ever it just sit and idle unless I’m in rush hour traffic. Anyway this is what the manger said, what do you guys think, Believable?
ECM# 203252253AG
Total Fuel – 243 gallons
Total Time - 94 hrs
Total Idle Fuel – 22galons
Total Idle time – 35hrs
Total Distance - 2838 miles
Total Ave Fuel – 12mpg
% of time at Load:
0-10% Load - 18.1%
11-20% - 26.9%
21-30% - 18.8%
31-40% - 12.6%
41-50% - 7.1%
51-60% - 3.0%
61-70% - 2.1%
71-80% - 1.2%
81-90% - 0.4%
91-100% - 0.3%
The service manger said my idle time is killing me and the D600 uses a lot more fuel at idle than previous engines. I don’t really ever it just sit and idle unless I’m in rush hour traffic. Anyway this is what the manger said, what do you guys think, Believable?
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Originally posted by Haulin_in_Dixie
Look like I need to stay with my second gen, 12 mpg at 70 to 75 with 30,000 gross. Never got below 11 back when it was stock.
Look like I need to stay with my second gen, 12 mpg at 70 to 75 with 30,000 gross. Never got below 11 back when it was stock.
http://p90.cdevco.net:808/bigboat.jpg
Darn that high drag cargo.
Maybe all these people with their 600's just need to break the motor in a little...
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Tim:
Surely it will get better.
I'm from western Colorado, and haul my 18-foot boat to Blue Mesa from time to time. Pretty steep passes, as you may know. Get between 15 and 17. So, your problems aren't the general rule, and once the engine gets better broken in, your lousy fuel mileage should go away.
Surely it will get better.
I'm from western Colorado, and haul my 18-foot boat to Blue Mesa from time to time. Pretty steep passes, as you may know. Get between 15 and 17. So, your problems aren't the general rule, and once the engine gets better broken in, your lousy fuel mileage should go away.